[NYer]

[NYer]

Alright .... this story is little "out there", especially at such an early hour of the day. However, the laboratory results are more than impressive. Bologna is the Center for Medical study in Italy. You can discern these results for yourself.

Here is the original article in Italian
"FENOMENO VERO E SCONCERTANTE"

[stuartcr]

The CSI people need to look into this...

[Swordmaker]

Interesting.

The chain of evidence is unclear. The Padre is too intimately involved in the event to not raise questions of his involvement in some kind of hoax: both Icons are his property, both developed bloody exudations, the incidents were discovered by him alone, both samples were collected by him.

The reports of the "scientific reports" don't read like they were done objectively. I also question the conclusions as being scientifically conclusive.

"the blood is human blood, of group AB, male, and was found to be identical in the two samples tested, the blood from the tears from the Icon of the Virgin and the blood that appeared of the Face of Jesus are the same."

But there is more, the document continues from its evaluations to something that seems really incredible: 

"the configuration of the genetic features found in the Y chromosome does not correspond to any of the configurations present in the world wide data bank where the data of 22,000 male subjects from 187 different populations is kept."

And further on we read:

  "This blood is so rare that it must be considered as almost unique. By calculation, the statistical probability of finding, in the course of millennia, a typology of the same blood type, is almost nil, the mathematical probability of this happening is in the order of 1 in 200 billion possible cases."

[In other words 1 on 200,000,000,000.]

The statement that the "typology", not the DNA markers, of the blood is almost unique (sic - that's like saying "she's almost pregnant") is a little strange... no, scientifically, it is more than a little strange. Type AB Blood, if you count both negative and positive alleles, is possessed by about 5% of the population of the Earth. If they are talking about the "almost unique" DNA of the samples, then ANY individual will have "almost unique" DNA ... actually most likely everyone not a member of an identical birth set (twins, triplets, etc.) has unique DNA. That is the theoretical base for using DNA for forensic purposes.

This article is too "gee, whow" to give it much credence. I am reserving judgement... but my BS stink-o-meter says that the priest has something to do with the placing of the blood on the icons.

[YankeeinOkieville]

My blood is "O-neg". I guess we're not related.

[gal522]

Very interesting but causes me to feel an extreme amount of caution; just because this stuff is coming out of a Christian picture doesn't necessarily mean it's from God. The Bible says that in the last days there will be signs and wonders that may deceive even the elect... I find this a bit creepy myself.

[F16Fighter]

In a private letter to Padre Pietro, one of the researchers wrote: "these are results to stun with amazement even a statue." And again: "faced with the results of these analyses is incredible to me, and that is not saying much to say this, I could not even succeed in hiding my tears." And another one told him: "This is real human blood, but it seems to really come from another world."

Yeah -- the "under-world."

Satan is "supernatural" as well as God.