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The Papacy - Where Peter is, There is the Church
Catholic Legate ^ | September 23, 2004 | Father M. Piotrowski

Posted on 01/20/2005 6:44:04 AM PST by NYer

"Where Peter is, there is the church … he who is not with the Pope is not with God, and who desires to be with God must be with the Pope."

These words, reflecting on the meaning of the visions in Fatima, were uttered by Sister Lucia, the only surviving witness to the apparitions there. Our Lady of Fatima summons us to convert to a living and authentic faith in the only God of the Trinity, who is truly present in the Eucharist. The Mother of God reminds us that the Pope plays a decisive role in the transmission of the fullness of the faith. The Pope, as the successor to Saint Peter, is the rock on which Christ builds his church (Mt. 16:18). It is to Saint Peter that our Lord Jesus granted full authority to infallibly teach the truths of the faith and to lead and govern the entire church. Saint Peter was the first to establish the bishop’s capital in Rome, and to consecrate it with his own blood, the blood of a martyr. For this reason each successor to Saint Peter in the Capital acquires primacy over the whole Church.

Saint Peter resided in Rome and suffered a martyr’s death there in the year 67 A.D., at the time of the Christian persecutions during the reign of the emperor Nero. The exact place of his martyrdom is unknown. Historians believe Saint Peter was crucified upside down in Nero’s amphitheater, which was situated where the Vatican now stands. He was buried at a nearby cemetery. Many years of excavations underneath the Basilica of Saint Peter led to the discovery of the first Pope’s tomb. The tomb lies directly beneath the Pope’s altar in the Vatican Basilica. This tomb signifies that each bishop of Rome is Saint Peter’s successor and by virtue of his office as "the successor of Christ and the Pastor of the whole Church has full, supreme and universal power over the church" (Christus Dominus 2:9).

For thirteen centuries no one questioned the presence of Saint Peter’s tomb in the Vatican. The first to dispute this were the adherents of the Waldensian heresy, who rejected the primacy of the Pope, maintaining that Saint Peter was never in Rome, let alone that his tomb was there. Likewise, Luther and other leaders of the Reformation denied the existence of Saint Peter’s tomb in the Vatican, at the same time calling into question the primacy and infallibility of the Pope in matters of faith.

Excavation work beneath St Peter’s Basilica began in the spring of 1939 following the death of Pius XI, who had expressed the wish to be buried in the Vatican Grottos. During the digging of his grave, the remains of a pagan necropolis from Roman times were discovered. Hearing of this discovery, Pope Pius XII commissioned a team of research workers to begin excavations and investigations, which after several years lead to sensational discoveries. During the 10 years of archaeological work part of a large cemetery was discovered. Its greatest period of development would have taken place between the 2nd and the beginning of the 4th centuries A.D. Sepulchres were discovered along a street, which ran in the vicinity of Nero’s amphitheater. That superbly preserved necropolis is a typical pagan cemetery, and in it are also found Christian graves. To this day one can admire tombs and monuments of unparalleled architectural beauty, which belonged to affluent Roman families.

In the Valerius’ vault a Latin inscription was found: Petrus rogat Iesus Christus pro sanctis hominibus chrestianis ad corpus suum sepultis (Peter prays to Jesus Christ for the Christians buried near his body). In Popilius Herakles’ tomb the following inscription was found; IN VATIC. AD CIRCUM (at the Vatican, near the amphitheater), which confirms the cemetery’s location on the Vatican hills in the vicinity of Nero’s amphitheater. In the main, however, these were sepulchres of families professing a pagan religion.

At the beginning of the 4th century the cemetery was in full use. According to Roman law the tombs were sacred and inviolable. The only reason the emperor Constantine (280 – 337) was required to break the Roman cemetery law in the case of this necropolis was the necessity of building a Christian basilica on the terrain owing to the great devotion Christians had to the tomb of St. Peter, which was located there. The emperor ordered a so-called congestion terrarum, demolishing the northern end of the cemetery and covering tombs which were found in its southern part with earth. The aim was to obtain a wide flat area on the slope of the Vatican hill at the same level as the tomb of Saint Peter, and to begin the construction of the basilica there in reverence to the first Pope. It bears witness to the tremendous veneration in which the first Christians held the tomb of Saint Peter.


Cross section of necropolis below the Bernini altar

The excavations carried out in the central area of the basilica, under the pope’s altar, lead to the sensational discovery of the tomb and relics of St. Peter. First to be discovered was a huge cuboidal marble reliquary almost 3 yards wide. It had been built by the emperor Constantine in the years 321 – 324. A small tombstone, in the shape of a hollowed-out chapel, was found inside the reliquary and was supported by two columns and set in a red-plastered wall. Since this tiny memorial had been enclosed in the reliquary it must have been of extraordinary significance. The research workers had come upon the most important section of the Vatican Basilica and the entire underground necropolis. It became evident that this was the first monument to be erected, in the 2nd century, on St Peter’s tomb. The first Christians considered the tomb of St. Peter a victorious trophy. Since the earliest information concerning the ‘trophy-tomb’ of St. Peter comes from the Roman priest Gaius, this tombstone was called Gaius’ Trophy. Early in the 2nd century the Roman Christian community built the ‘trophy-tomb’ on the unexpectedly modest grave of St Peter, which had quite simply been dug in the ground. On its western side a red plastered wall enclosed it. This wall surrounded a small burial ground about 8 x 4 yards. Many common and simple graves were found there, placed around St. Peter’s grave, on top of which sat Gaius’ Trophy. The tomb of the Apostle Peter was particularly highly venerated, to which the many inscriptions on the so called ‘g – wall’ bear witness, including a large inscription in Greek: "Peter is here at the ‘red wall’."


Red Wall

The research undertaken over many years by Professor Margherita Guarducci led to the discovery of the meanings of the many inscriptions on the ‘g – wall’. They were written by the one person responsible for that place, according to established principles of mystical cryptography, and were both spiritually as well as logically ordered. As an example, we know that the letters u - á mean a transition from the end, that is from death to the beginning, to the fullness of life.

Aside from the names of the dead the name of St. Peter appears, linked with the names of Christ and Mary, as well as the profession of belief in the Blessed Trinity; that Jesus Christ is true God and true man; that he is the second person in the Blessed Trinity, the Son of God, the Beginning and the End, the Life, the Light, the Resurrection, Salvation, Peace and Victory etc. In this manner Christians professed their faith in the Blessed Trinity, Christ’s Divinity, the intercession of Mary and eternal life and prayed for their dead.

This is extremely important testimony indicative of the fact that since the very beginnings of Christianity there was a very deep faith in the Blessed Trinity, Christ’s divinity, the intercession of the Mother of God and eternal life, as well as the primacy of St. Peter.

It is also worthwhile to mention at this point the inscription hoc vince (with this you shall conquer) near Christ’s monogram. It is the Latin translation of a famous Greek inscription ôdoôu íéeáM, which the emperor Constantine saw in the sky, together with a cross, before his victory in the Battle of Milvian Bridge against Maxentius’s armies on October 28 in the year 312.

Archaeologists were very surprised when they failed to find the relics of St. Peter in the grave dug in the ground. They were later found just over 2 yards above the original grave in a recess in the ‘g-wall’. The recess containing the relics was discovered on October 13, 1941. It transpired that the emperor Constantine had transferred the relics of St. Peter from the original grave to the specially prepared recess in the ‘g - wall’ during the construction of the marble reliquary.

The relics became the subject of anthropological studies of many years duration. Initially the studies were headed by Professor Galeazzi Lisi, then by Professor Correnti. The results of the studies were printed in 1965 in a book published by the Vatican: Le reliquie di Pietro sotto la Confessione della Basilica Vaticana.. The bones of St. Peter, placed at the time of the emperor Constantine in the ‘g-wall’ recess, were wrapped in a valuable purple cloth interwoven with pure gold.

The anthropological studies revealed that the bones belonged to one person, a male of stocky build, aged between 60 – 70 years and 5 feet 5 inches tall.

The scientific confirmation of the authenticity of the relics of St. Peter was an extremely important event. During the general audience on June 26, 1968 Pope Paul VI officially announced the discovery of the relics of St Peter. The following day, during the course of formal celebrations, 19 receptacles holding the relics of the first Pope were laid to rest in the recess of the ‘g-wall,’ where they remain to this day.

Father M. Piotrowski, Society of Christ
September 23, 2004


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To: netmilsmom
A viking "assault cat" would be ein sturmkatze.
41 posted on 01/20/2005 11:20:11 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Mershon; netmilsmom; Convert from ECUSA; Rokke; Kolokotronis; ...

My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church. Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations. Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers. Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."


42 posted on 01/20/2005 11:24:35 AM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: netmilsmom
I said it before and I'll say it again, Why do we never see the Catholic Bashers "ministering" to the Jews on one of Alouette, Sjackson or Yonif's threads?? Catholics are fair game.

And why do we never see Catholics with persecution complexes ministering at all?

43 posted on 01/20/2005 11:25:01 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: NYer
My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's.

Whoop-dee-do.

Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations.

That was funny. Tell me another one.

Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers.

And Catholics don't do the same. Boy are you naive. Besides, didn't know I professed to be a Christian.

Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

Its called disagreement. I know you have a hisotry of getting that word confused with bashing. Sorry we exercise free speech in here.

44 posted on 01/20/2005 12:04:10 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Convert from ECUSA; Mershon; netmilsmom
Perhaps you can improve your status in the forum from "invincibly ignorant" to "arguably savvy", by educating yourself at this thread. You can then progress to:

The Early Church Fathers

and, of course ...

Catechism of the Catholic Church

By then, you will be ready for ...


Coming Home .

45 posted on 01/20/2005 12:33:10 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: NYer

to convert go here: http://www.convertingtojudaism.com/?OVRAW=jewish%20conversion&OVKEY=jewish%20conversion&OVMTC=standard


46 posted on 01/20/2005 12:41:15 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Thanks for the link! Shalom!


47 posted on 01/20/2005 12:55:06 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Just wondering. Are you what's called a "Monotheist Messianic"?

Are you what's called "invincibly ignorant yet rhetorically argumentative"?

48 posted on 01/20/2005 12:58:41 PM PST by DBeers
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

It's time for you to leave this thread. Let me know if you need any help.


49 posted on 01/20/2005 1:00:57 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
It's time for you to leave this thread. Let me know if you need any help.

I'd seriously like to know what the problem is.

50 posted on 01/20/2005 1:03:38 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

You are the problem. Please stay off this thread. Thank you.


51 posted on 01/20/2005 1:13:05 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

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52 posted on 01/20/2005 1:16:11 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Rokke

"Upon this Rock I will built my Church"

Did not Christ himself declare Simon, Peter, which means rock?

Did not God himself instruct Moses to strike the "rock" to refresh the people of Israel? Twice?

Looks like that Church was quite literally built on top of that "Rock"


53 posted on 01/20/2005 1:29:19 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

>>And why do we never see Catholics with persecution complexes ministering at all?<<

Because we believe in free will and we know we are right. It isn't considered a complex when someone is bashing your beliefs, just fact.
BTW, why don't you minister on the Jewish threads?


54 posted on 01/20/2005 1:34:03 PM PST by netmilsmom (God send you a Blessed 2005!)
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To: NYer
Re: "My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaeological background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church"

Perhaps I can help explain the reasons for the attacks. The archaeological evidence is a threat to long held and cherished views.
55 posted on 01/20/2005 1:37:33 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Mark in the Old South

Thank you Mark and enjoy your visit to the site!


56 posted on 01/20/2005 1:47:16 PM PST by NYer ("In good times we enjoy faith, in bad times we exercise faith." ... Mother Angelica)
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To: mike182d; mhuye
"...Furthermore, if you look at the context, Jesus had just changed Simon's name to "rock," as a sure foundation on which to build His kingdom..."

If you can't get this right how can we put any faith in your exegesis? Jesus named him "Peter" the first time He met him.

John 1:
[40] One of the two who heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother.
[41] He first found his brother Simon, and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which means Christ).
[42] He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him, and said, "So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas" (which means Peter).

Further, He called him "Simon, Son of John" the last time, recorded in Scripture, He spoke to him. Hardly "Rock"!

57 posted on 01/20/2005 2:15:29 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: NYer
My purpose in posting this thread was to provide the archaelogical background on St. Peter's. How unfortunate that some guests have used it as an opportunity to bash the Catholic Church. Catholic freepers show respect for those from other religious denominations. Yet those who profess to be christians, use certain threads to launch salvos at catholic freepers. Perhaps you mothers never taught you proper christian manners: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

It is not "Catholic Bashing" when you are called on a falsehood. You tell a story and others have a right to tell a different story.

The most precious of Peter's bones found in the Graffiti Wall are the 29 fragments of the Apostle's skull. Note: the 29 pieces of Peter's skull found in the Grafitti Wall are not to be confused with Peter's other skull, which is stored in the Cathedral of St. John Lateran.

How many skulls did Peter have?

58 posted on 01/20/2005 2:39:48 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Those who visit the Basilica on pilgrimage visit it not just because it is the head of all churches and the Pope’s cathedral. The wooden altar on which St Peter celebrated Mass while in Rome is inside the main altar. The heads of Sts Peter and Paul were once believed to be inside busts above the main altar"

You see my friend, once believed is very much different from is now. Besides, skulls have been found in pieces. Nothing says it was found in one piece. (From this site... http://www.frtommylane.com/homilies/ years_abc/dedication_basilica_john_lateran.htm)

59 posted on 01/20/2005 4:08:02 PM PST by netmilsmom (God send you a Blessed 2005!)
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