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To: Safrguns
# 2 is incorrect. The "Falling Away" is actually a misinterpretation of 'Being Caught up'... This is a direct reference to the rapture.

I have never heard anyone say this before. Where did this come from?

18 posted on 11/07/2004 10:15:42 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: ladyinred
Jack Van Impe is the best source for proof on this.
Basically it boils down to a single word in the KJV which was poorly translated... reversing the interpreted meaning of the original Hebrew text. I'll see if I can find a link.
19 posted on 11/07/2004 10:29:32 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: ladyinred
The scripture in question is 2 Thessalonians 2:3.
"...That day (revealing of the antichrist) will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition."
Here's the same scripture from the HNV version (Hebrew)
"Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,"

The concept of a "falling away" as we have understood it and as it has been described does not fit with any other prophecies concerning the end times. I challenge anyone to find a supporting prophecy suggesting that God's church (not individuals) will be in a state of failure when He comes for it. However, if this IS a case of mis-translation, and HNV version is correct, the word departure (Rapture) fits very well with the context of the verse and chapter. i.e. The antichrist will not be revealed until the church has departed.
27 posted on 11/07/2004 11:03:04 PM PST by Safrguns
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