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There are monarchists who would otherwise be Berkeley leftists. The country to your north has redefined the meaning of constitutional monarchy to the point that they reflect more of Kerry-Clinton multi-culti fuddi-buddi rather than historic majesty of James I. I have seen Canadian "conservatives" flock to a known Chomskyite statist politician and not to his principled conservative counterpart (political issues speaking) just because he happens to pepper his speeches with "God save the Queen!"

Monarchy in the mold of Queen Victoria is not bad, but if you force me to choose a constitutional monarchical system with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, Helen Clark or Jean Chretien as head of government, and a republic with George Washington as both head of state and government, I will choose Washington, thanks.


25 posted on 10/04/2004 8:08:10 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Controversially right-wing by NZ standards: unashamedly pro-conservative-America)
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There are monarchists who would otherwise be Berkeley leftists.

I realize that this is possible, since I used to be one myself before I moved rightward on issues other than monarchy. However, as I wrote two years ago, the left-royalist position (what I call "neomonarchism") is becoming less plausible since leftists are becoming more openly hostile to constitutional monarchy, especially in the English-speaking countries.

I have seen Canadian "conservatives" flock to a known Chomskyite statist politician and not to his principled conservative counterpart (political issues speaking) just because he happens to pepper his speeches with "God save the Queen!"

Really? Somehow I doubt that this is all that common. I just find it difficult to believe that today's Canadian leftist politicians are eager to prove their enthusiasm for the monarchy.

if you force me to choose a constitutional monarchical system with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, Helen Clark or Jean Chretien as head of government, and a republic with George Washington as both head of state and government, I will choose Washington, thanks.

Helen Clark, as you probably know, is a republican who has announced that she thinks it is "inevitable" for New Zealand to break with the Crown, so no monarchist would want her in power either; I'm not sure what your point is. And the George Washington option is not currently available. In any case, as an unreconstructed Tory/Loyalist, between George Washington and King George III, I would have chosen the latter--without denying that the former was an honorable man, far superior to most of his successors.

27 posted on 10/05/2004 7:09:25 AM PDT by royalcello
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