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What exactly was Paul writing?
9/10/04 | Self

Posted on 09/09/2004 9:56:01 PM PDT by ksen

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To: The Once and Future King

***Jesus Christ is too good for any lesser legacy. Do you doubt that?***

I'm not sure I understand your question. Now, what of mine?

Where do you get your knowlege of Jesus Christ?


81 posted on 09/11/2004 12:15:39 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: RochesterFan

Good point.


83 posted on 09/11/2004 12:26:32 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: The Once and Future King
Paul was right. No baby needs to be cut to fulfill some religious belief of their parent. It was always a barbaric custom, and Paul did right in steering Christianity away from it.

That's a modern viewpoint, not a Pauline view.

84 posted on 09/11/2004 12:47:30 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: rdb3
"We were discussing homosexuality in an ethics class. He did not see anything wrong with homosexuality because Christ never condemned it in the Gospels. When confronted with Romans 1, for example, he just said that those were Pauline writings.

And to be totally honest, this professor was not a flaming leftist. His ideas went more libertarian than anything."

For a teacher's opinion to be considered on a par with the writer's of the Bible is an artifice of Satan.

Unfortunately, students are strongly impressed by mentor's and teacher's they respect; and/or they especially like and enjoy. It is a real life experience as opposed to words written thousands of years ago. So much that is delitescence is picked up along the way.

We grow as believers until the day we leave this life. Seeds of corruption are sown in the minds of us all, along with the words of God and Our Lord Jesus Christ... Sorting them out is not spontaneous; but requires diligent time spent in the Word of God. Faith and prayer and The work of the Holy Spirit.

85 posted on 09/11/2004 12:56:09 PM PDT by Countyline
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To: The Once and Future King

***From the only source that matters.***

Could you be a little more precise...


86 posted on 09/11/2004 1:58:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: The Once and Future King
Not surprisingly, they worship Al-ilah, the god of Abraham.

      No.  This is but one of the lies of a false religion.  See Allah - the Moon God
87 posted on 09/11/2004 10:02:15 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: ksen
Was Paul writing Scripture?

Yes.

Are the Pauline Epistles just as much God's Word as the Gospels are?

Yes.

as the giving of the Mosaic Law?

Yes.

:-)

90 posted on 09/12/2004 1:21:18 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: ksen
But what do you do when confronted with someone who says that Paul's interpretation of God's doctrine is fallible because it came from a man like us, albeit a man somewhat closer to God than we are.

      That all of scripture is given by inspiration of God.  All of scripture was written by men who were fallible, and made mistakes; some of their mistakes are recorded in scripture, but as mistakes.  In this, Paul was no different than Moses or Soloman.  When they were writing scripture, the writers of the Bible (including Paul) were guided by the Holy Ghost so that the did not record any of their erroneous ideas as truth.
94 posted on 09/12/2004 12:23:59 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: The Once and Future King
The etymological roots of ilah, meaning god, are as ancient as it gets: the original term is Sumerian.

      For more on the etymology of the Muslim word for God, see The pagan origin of the word, "Allah".  The Arabic "al" is cognate to the Hebrew "El", but it a generic term.  Nowhere in the Bible is the name "allah" (or alilah) used to refer to El Shaddai.

Modern day adherents of Islam trace their religious legacy to Abraham, and their claim to worship the god of Abraham is sincere.

      Sincere, probably; wrong, certainly.

      I'll have more comments later on Abraham, Paul, and circumcision.
95 posted on 09/12/2004 1:55:48 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Bohemund
I happen to believe that Paul was divinely inspired. But why would a quote from Paul that "scripture is given by inspiration from God" prove to a skeptic that Paul was inspired?

It wouldn't. But then seeing the miracles of Christ didn't prove it to skeptics of His day. The scripture quote was not meant to be proof, but was more of a general statement summing up my belief. I just find it interesting that because Paul wrote some things that people don't like, they contend he wasn't inspired. But they have no problem with the four men who wrote the gospels. It's just bad reasoning used to support bad arguments.

96 posted on 09/13/2004 6:22:06 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular.)
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To: familyop
The original writings of Paul were very Gnostic works--the going thing in those days. They were later rewritten to reflect prevailing Roman beliefs.

On FreeRepublic, when one makes half-assed, tinfoil remarks like the above, they're expected to actually provide evidence pointing to their viewpoint.
97 posted on 09/14/2004 8:40:09 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: The Once and Future King
Revelation 22

14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.

*******

Outside are the dogs...

Dogs are those outside of the Abrahamic covenant.

With ...the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood...

98 posted on 09/14/2004 1:12:26 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Elul is here... Tesheva Time!)
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