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Eucharist for Non-Catholics
Zenit News Agency ^ | August 17, 2004 | Father Edward McNamara

Posted on 08/18/2004 6:45:01 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, AUG. 17, 2004 (Zenit.org).- Answered by Father Edward McNamara, professor of liturgy at the Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University.

Q: I have been a Eucharistic minister to the sick for the past 10 years. I have done this in four different dioceses. I have permission from the local bishop to bring daily Communion to a gravely ill relative. This past Sunday, I met several Episcopalians and Lutherans who really wanted to participate in some type of a service too. My heart went out to them. In all our readings Jesus healed based on a person's faith, not their creed. I have not shared Communion, but my heart says this would be good for the faith of those who are suffering. May the Eucharist be shared among non-Catholic if there is faith in the Real Presence? Must I abide by Church law? -- S.C., Little Rock, Arkansas

A: John Paul II has spoken on the relationship between the Eucharist and ecumenism in his encyclical "Ecclesia de Eucharistia":

"The gift of Christ and his Spirit which we receive in Eucharistic communion superabundantly fulfills the yearning for fraternal unity deeply rooted in the human heart; at the same time it elevates the experience of fraternity already present in our common sharing at the same Eucharistic table to a degree which far surpasses that of the simple human experience of sharing a meal. Through her communion with the body of Christ the Church comes to be ever more profoundly 'in Christ in the nature of a sacrament, that is, a sign and instrument of intimate unity with God and of the unity of the whole human race.'

"The seeds of disunity, which daily experience shows to be so deeply rooted in humanity as a result of sin, are countered by the unifying power of the body of Christ. The Eucharist, precisely by building up the Church, creates human community" (No. 24).

Later, in No. 46 of the encyclical, the Pope reminds us of those rare cases, and under what conditions, non-Catholic Christians may be admitted to the sacraments of the Eucharist, reconciliation and anointing of the sick.

This administration is limited to "Christians who are not in full communion with the Catholic Church but who greatly desire to receive these sacraments, freely request them and manifest the faith which the Catholic Church professes with regard to these sacraments. Conversely, in specific cases and in particular circumstances, Catholics too can request these same sacraments from ministers of Churches in which these sacraments are valid."

It adds: "These conditions, from which no dispensation can be given, must be carefully respected, even though they deal with specific individual cases. That is because the denial of one or more truths of the faith regarding these sacraments and, among these, the truth regarding the need of the ministerial priesthood for their validity, renders the person asking improperly disposed to legitimately receiving them. And the opposite is also true: Catholics may not receive 'communion' in those communities which lack a valid sacrament of orders."

The Holy Father refers to several numbers of the Ecumenical Directory which specify these conditions in more detail, in its chapter on "Sharing Spiritual Activities and Resources."

The general principles involved in this sharing must reflect this double fact:

"1) The real communion in the life of the Spirit which already exists among Christians and is expressed in their prayer and liturgical worship;

"2) The incomplete character of this communion because of differences of faith and understanding which are incompatible with an unrestricted mutual sharing of spiritual endowments."

For these reasons the Church recognizes that "in certain circumstances, by way of exception, and under certain conditions, access to these sacraments may be permitted, or even commended, for Christians of other Churches and ecclesial Communities" (No. 130).

Apart from the case of danger of death, the episcopal conference and the local bishop may specify other grave circumstances in which a Protestant may receive these sacraments although always respecting the conditions outlined above in the Holy Father's encyclical: "that the person be unable to have recourse for the sacrament desired to a minister of his or her own Church or ecclesial Community, ask for the sacrament of his or her own initiative, [and] manifest Catholic faith in this sacrament and be properly disposed" (No. 131).

Therefore in general it is not possible for you to give Communion to Protestants. But if you find one who fulfills the above conditions, you should advise the local pastor so that the person may receive reconciliation and anointing of the sick.

This does not mean that you are completely despoiled of all possibilities of giving spiritual comfort while exercising one of the corporal works of mercy.

Apart from words of encouragement and consolation you could also use some of the spiritual treasury of readings, prayers and intercessions found in the ritual for the care of the sick. Thus you could pray for, and with, these souls in a time of need.


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To: dangus

Ones denominition does not guarantee salvation, you can be a Lutheran and go to heaven and a Catholic and go to hell. Religious observances are important, but the heart is more important.

My previous comment was written because it appeared that you where trying to say that ONLY Roman Catholics (defined as those in communion with the Pope) can be saved.

As for who started the 30 years war, both sides did. The Reformation was as much about politics as it was about theology.


201 posted on 08/19/2004 9:18:52 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Renatus

The proper term is "Extra-ordinary Ministers of the Eucharist." Therefore, it would be synonymous to say, "Extra-ordinary Eucharistic Ministrers." I think the inclusion of the word, "extra-ordinary" is an important reminder that the role should not be allowed to become ordinary, as it often has. (Sometimes, I think some EMEs think they're just doing an extra-ordinary job!) But an "extraordinary Minister of the Eucharist," is, nonetheless, a kind of minister of the Eucharist.


202 posted on 08/19/2004 9:29:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

The proper term is "Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion" not "Extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist."


203 posted on 08/19/2004 9:43:19 AM PDT by Renatus
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To: redgolum

>>Ones denominition does not guarantee salvation, you can be a Lutheran and go to heaven and a Catholic and go to hell. Religious observances are important, but the heart is more important. <<

I don't thnk we're disagreeing. I would just clarify that I meant when I referred to a "denomination" not guaranteeing salvation, what I meant was "the religious practices of a denomination." BTW, the Catholic Church rejects the notion that faith and sacramental works can be isolated; faith *is* a required element of the sacraments.


204 posted on 08/19/2004 9:45:02 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; redgolum
"Many cold-hearted traditionalists despise the phrasing "separated brethren" because they understand the Council of Trent to mean that no Protestants ever go to Heaven."

This is weak. Here's why:

First, the spin put on traditional Catholics as being cold hearted is subjective and groundless. It's an opinion. It's wrong.

Secondly, it is an undisputable fact that it is infallible Catholic doctrine that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. This infallible doctrine explicity states that all those who are outside the Church must be joined to Her before death. This cannot be denied.

Thirdly, the above doctrine did not originate from the Council of Trent, as it has been held to be Catholic Truth since the inception of the Universal Church.

So in true charity and honest warm-heartenedness, let's invited those outside the Catholic Church into the Catholic Church. Let's not play the liberal where the truth is concerned.
205 posted on 08/19/2004 9:46:19 AM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi

>> Thirdly, the above doctrine did not originate from the Council of Trent, as it has been held to be Catholic Truth since the inception of the Universal Church. <<

The notion that people who wilfully reject the Body of Christ, which is the church, are condemned has certainly been held as truth since the inception of the Universal Church. The assertion that "Protestants" are in this condition was first stated by the Council of Trent. No later true teaching has, or could, ever find the council to be in error. However, there is *doctrine* stated by the second Vatican Council which is in apparent contradiction to this. A resolution of this apparent contradiction is that the connotation of "protestant" in modern times is not identical to the Tridentine connotation of "protestant." The distinction I did explain.

>> Secondly, it is an undisputable fact that it is infallible Catholic doctrine that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. This infallible doctrine explicity states that all those who are outside the Church must be joined to Her before death. This cannot be denied. <<

It is the means of that juncture which is at issue. The doctrine of "invinceable ignorance" is well established. Again, I recommend that rather than saying "this is true, so this must be false," you seek to reconcile authoritative statements which appear to you to be in conflict.

>> First, the spin put on traditional Catholics as being cold hearted is subjective and groundless.<<

The modifier "cold-hearted" is deliberate and functional. It relates to the verb "despise." If it were subjective and an opinion, it could not be "wrong." I use it to reference the glee and lack of charity with which some traditionalists take in condemning the Pope, the Vatican Council, the Synod of Bishops, the "Amchurch", and, of course, Protestants. Please also note the delimiting word, "Many," and, of course, the fact that "cold-hearted" is a modifier, and as such, does not universally describe traditionalists.

However, you're bounding in to declare everyone condemned IN DIRECT DEFIANCE of the Church, and with no concern to exacerbating the invinceability of your audience's ignorance is precisely what I meant by cold-hearted.


206 posted on 08/19/2004 10:46:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I don't agree with it.


207 posted on 08/19/2004 12:22:48 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: dangus
"The doctrine of "invinceable ignorance" is well established."

A doctrine of invincible ignorance? There's no doctrine of invincible ignorance. There may be something called invincible ignorance, but to call it a doctrine would be to mis-identify it.

"Again, I recommend that rather than saying "this is true, so this must be false," you seek to reconcile authoritative statements which appear to you to be in conflict."

I see no conflicts.

"I use it to reference the glee and lack of charity with which some traditionalists take in condemning the Pope, the Vatican Council, the Synod of Bishops, the "Amchurch", and, of course, Protestants. Please also note the delimiting word, "Many," and, of course, the fact that "cold-hearted" is a modifier, and as such, does not universally describe traditionalists."

If someone is guilty of sin, they either repent and to penance for it, or they don't repent. Let God sort them out.

But back to the matter of doctrine:

"However, you're bounding in to declare everyone condemned IN DIRECT DEFIANCE of the Church, and with no concern to exacerbating the invinceability of your audience's ignorance is precisely what I meant by cold-hearted."

Nah. Just restating doctrine, that's all.
208 posted on 08/19/2004 12:25:42 PM PDT by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: dangus
"Any Protestant who does not know of the truths of the Catholic or faith, or who is steeled against them through invincible ignorance, but who has devoted his life to doing God's will, may be saved."

Do you know if the Church teaches one who is truly invincibly ignorant will be saved with certainty? I ask because you said "may be saved" in this quote. I think it is an important distinction. A Catholic who dies in a state of grace will be saved for sure, but the Church teaches that it is possible for the invincibly ignorant to be saved, but I have not read that they absolutely will be saved. In other words, God is merciful, but we can't say that those not in full communion will be saved with the same degree of certainty as those in full communion in a state of grace.

If this is not an important distinction, then we should not bother with evangelizing non Catholics and all those martyrs gave their lives in vain.

209 posted on 08/20/2004 5:40:38 AM PDT by johnb2004
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To: johnb2004

There is quite definitely the need to evangelize Protestants! I said, "may" because I meant "may"! I also specifically mentionned, "extra-ordinary," using the hyphenated spelling of that word to emphasize that it is not the ordinary saving graces by which a Protestant may be saved!

For instance, TEACHINGS DO MATTER! If a Protestant church teaches that divorce is acceptable, the person who has a divorce is still committing adultery, a mortal sin. (And yes, if a Catholic is less than candid about his marital failures and obtains an annulment when he should not, he too commits adultery, and bears the guilt of his wife's adultery. But at least he knows he has separated himself from Christ.)

For another instance, CONFESSION DOES MATTER! The bible requires those who have committed mortal sin to confess their sin to the assembly. SOMETIMES Protestants do this ("I have sinned against God, and against Man"--J. Falwell). But what constitutes confession? Sharing in an open discussion group? Talking openly about sins? Or do you have to proclaim the sins in front of the entire church? (this is rarely done.) And who in the assembly has the authority to forgive sins? And what if someone in the assembly holds those sins bound?

Again, OPPOSITION TO THE BODY OF CHRIST matters. How many FReepers attack the unity of the Church, slander the saints, teach false doctrine, steele others' minds against Catholicism?

And then there's COMMITMENT TO A BODY, through which we learn great spiritual lessons. How is humility taught, or really any lesson which requires mortification, when people believe that they can reject any congregation/denomination just because THEY don't agree with what their CHURCH teaches?

And these are just to touch apon the less mystical things that even a Protestant can see the profundity of the problem of, to say nothing of far more singificant issues: The supernatural intervention of saints and angels, the outpouring of grace from the host, the direct operation of the Holy Spirit within those who are in grace... These things protect a person from sin in ways a Protestant is completely vulnerable. How sad that so many of our priesthood have exposed themselves by failure to stay in grace.


210 posted on 08/20/2004 8:42:47 AM PDT by dangus
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