Posted on 08/09/2004 8:53:46 PM PDT by narses
Melinda Henneberger: At an Environment 2004 party on Beacon Hill Monday evening I ran into Francesco Rutelli, the popular former mayor of Rome, and asked him about rumors that he, a pro-choice Catholic of the Italian left, had nonetheless received communion from Pope John Paul II himself.
"Oh yes, this is true,'' he said, and asked to be walked though the controversy in the American Catholic Church, where some bishops have suggested that pro-choice politicians like John Kerry should be denied communion. "This is very strange for me,'' Rutelli said, "that you cannot be a Christian and also uphold the law of your country.''
"So, this is politics, too?'' he asked of the bishops, wryly suggesting that perhaps these American prelates were too far from Rome—and too close to Washington.
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Paxil couldn't hurt.....
:)
Mayors have the bully pulpit. The Pope has one also - he just doesn't use it.
I have reflected and I agree that confusion is rife in the USCCB and seems to parallel a confusion that exists in the Curia. I think it is the same confusion and the same characters that existed since long before the Passion and culminated in the Crucifixion which resulted in the Resurrection. God never changes and neither does human nature (the exception to my abhorrance to the use of the words never and always).
I looked at the "Passion of the Christ" from that perspective at one viewing and found striking similarities. I'd like to pursue this further but right now have to go for a couple of hours.
This post is yet another example of your evolving wisdom. Thank you for sharing this insight with us. I think you are spot on. God bless you.
Prepare yourself. We agree. Totally. Dominus Vobiscum.
Here I am.
Welcome. Every member of the Church Militant is welcome to this fight. Try, if you will, to remember that we are on the same side.
Deeeaaar narses,
My memory tells me that you are prolific in questioning the orthodoxy of His Holiness, Pope John Paul II. But of course, I recognize that my memory is increasingly fallible. I'll take your word for it.....we are on the same side.
Deeeeaar Maeve,
How about that! A FReeper aristocracy! :o )
"My memory tells me that you are prolific in questioning the orthodoxy of His Holiness, Pope John Paul II."
It is sad to see faulty memory. You might choose to post such "prolific" questioning so that I might retract it. Or, you could concede that you are simply in error.
Thank you for your kindness, and may God bless you for it.
One century (maybe the fifteenth or sixteenth?) had not a single Pope canonized. I follow the Holy Father as the head of my Church, but don't hold him to divine (or saintly) standards.
He's people, too.
A bit belated but thank you for the recommendation of that book. I have passed the word to the family 'throughout the diaspora' as we say. Again, many thanks.
Thanks for the laugh, but no, not an aristocracy, simply a family, and by God's grace as close knit as they were the day St. Columba sailed for Iona leaving his family behind.
He is indeed, with a burden heavier than mine. Pray for him.
Blair's wife is a Catholic. Whether that is CINO or not I do not know. There were rumors that Blair had secretly converted. But how much of that was to cover for the Pope I just don't know. Perhaps being Catholic and of Irish background, it infuriates me to hear stories of the Holy Father giving the Precious Body and Blood of Our Lord to Anglicans like Blair or to the Archdruid of Canterbury or the like. I try not to let it be an "Irish Catholic" issue with me, but simply a truly Catholic question. And in the end I am left hands raised to the sky asking, "Blessed Lord, what is going on here?"
Paxil tecum.
Et cum zyprexa tua.
I have to; I have no choice. If he can't do it, who can?
Do you mean lead the Church faithfully? Popes can make big mistakes.
That is why the Holy Ghost sends the likes of St. Birgitta of Sweden and St. Catherine of Siena. The Holy Spirit does do it, leads us into all truth throughout the unbroken history of our Catholic faith and teaching, and we must pray and work in humility with the zeal of those two holy women of God. Enough wringing of our hands, praying, weeping, and giving up.
I love the Vicar of Christ, and pray for him fervently, but I'm not going to deny that there is genuine weirdness going on, and I'm not going to be party to his deification which some quarters seem to demand. I have an intuition that God is raising up a whole new generation of St. Birgittas, St. Catherines and St. Vincent Ferrers all around us. We should be praying for them too.
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