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To: allen 47
The textus receptus, also called the majority text, agrees with the earliest versions of the Bible, the Peshitta, the old Latin Bible, the Italic Bible. It is untainted with Egyptian philosophy and unbelief.

Everything you said above is simply untrue.

And remember, the label "textus receptus" was itself an advertising gimmick by the Elzevir brothers to push a collection of late NT manuscripts, not the earliest ones. It included passages that were translated from a late Latin NT back into Greek because there were parts missing in the later Greek texts. There were words inserted as Greek that were not even Greek.

There were interpolations in the Latin text that were inserted as though they were in the Greek texts, but were not. Here's one of them: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." I John 5:7 This was found in the Latin Vulgate but in no Greek manuscript at the time. Erasmus was criticized by another translator for not including it in his translation.

Erasmus said that he had not found it in any Greek manuscript but that if he found one, he'd include the passage. Shortly after that someone wrote out a complete copy of the Greek NT including this passage from the Vulgate. Erasmus kept his promise and included the spurious passage in his translation.

Since then, three other Greek manuscripts (out of thousands) have been found to contain this passage. One is a 12th century manuscript with the passage written in the margin in 17th century handwriting; there's a 16th century copy of Ximenes's Complutensian Polyglot Greek text (Ximenes was the one who was complaining to Erasmus about that passage). The third appears in a manuscript that is either 14th century or late 16th century depending on the scholar. The passage on its own first appears in a 4th century Latin treatise. It doesn't appear in the Latin Vulgate in any edition before the 8th century.

As far as "Egyptian philosophy and unbelief" go, I can virtually guarantee that you will be unable to cite any specific instance anywhere in the New Testament and be able to defend that interpretation.
52 posted on 08/05/2004 8:53:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Your rational scholarship is impressive.

Your balanced sanity refreshing.

Your bother and courage are greatly appreciated.


73 posted on 08/05/2004 10:12:29 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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