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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
In 7:2 is the words "great sea" = Med. Sea, (the actual geographical location of this prophecy)

I believe the actual geographical location is Shinar. See below verse... What would be the reason for the Med. Sea to be placed here?


All of these empires in this section did at some point boarder the Mediteranian Sea. The term "great sea" was used numerous times in the Old Testament to refer to the Med.
Num 34:6, Num 34:7, Jos 1:4, Jos 9:1, Jos 15:12, Jos 15:47, Jos 23:4, Ezk 47:10, Ezk 47:15, Ezk 47:19, Ezk 47:20 all refer to the Med. Sea as the "great sea".

Daniel 1:2 The Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, along with some of the vessels of the house of God; and he brought them to the land of Shinar, to the house of his god, and he brought the vessels into the treasury of his god. The Land of Shinar The Land of Shinar was a general geographic term for what is today Iraq, known in ancient times as Mesopotamia. There, two of the greatest of ancient empires, Assyria and Babylon, were centered. Shinar is mentioned very early in Bible History, it being the location of the famous "tower of Babel" that was constructed after the Flood.

Not sure about your point, however, I agree that Daniel was in what is modern day Iraq.

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I agree with your meaning but cannot tie in Rev.17:15 please explain.

7:3 says, "And four great beasts came up from the sea" which refers to Rev. 17:15 "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
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See : Rev 13:1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." This is explained in Rev 17:15

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I still don't get it HELP! Maybe we are using different translations. I am using NASB. I have cross referenced the cross references forward and backward. I still see that sea=peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues and that in the end from the sea the saints will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever.

The NASB has it's roots in the corrupted Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. These manuscripts are a source of major confusion in Bible study and as stated in I Cor. 14:33, "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints".

To pick up a Bible and see if it has been corrupted, there is a simple test. 1 John 5:7 should state: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." This is the verse that provides a born again Christian with the understanding that The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are "three in one" and that Jesus Christ is the Word of God, (See John 1:1-14 and Rev. 19:13).

I feel that the discussion of manuscripts would be better served in a different thread as it could derail this Daniel discussion. I use the King James Version.
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The following is (fill in the blank) with your interpretation.
Daniel 7
2 Daniel said, "I was looking in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the (Mediterranean Sea) great sea.
This will work and I understand....
3 "And four great beasts were coming up from the (peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues) sea, different from one another.

The Vision Interpreted

16 "I approached one of those who were standing by and began asking him the exact meaning of all this. So he told me and made known to me the interpretation of these things:
17 'These great beasts, which are four in number, are four kings who will arise from the earth.
18 'But the saints of the Highest One will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, for all ages to come.'


I'm kind of lost here. What are you looking for?
278 posted on 08/13/2004 9:04:41 AM PDT by DocRock (Check my homepage for more "home movies" of the Kerry campaign)
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I'm a few hours from having to deal with hurricane Charley as I live between Orlando and Tampa. I may be off this thread for a while depending on the damage to power lines and my cable connection, (I use Tampabay Road Runner). I'll keep everyone posted about my status.
279 posted on 08/13/2004 9:11:49 AM PDT by DocRock (Check my homepage for more "home movies" of the Kerry campaign)
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