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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
7:2 "the great sea" is the Mediterranean Sea in this passage, not a mass of people as in other references to "sea". <

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GREAT! Will get to 8 tomorrow I hope! Can you expand on the above verse a little more so I can get it in my mind. This will be real important, don't want to miss anything.

In 7:2 is the words "great sea" = Med. Sea, (the actual geographical location of this prophecy)

7:3 says, "And four great beasts came up from the sea" which refers to Rev. 17:15 "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."

On a side note, I live in Central Florida and will be preparing for the " the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea... " from Charley. I have to batten down the hatches and won't be around much in the next couple days. Hopefully, I'll still have cable access for the Internet. God Bless and prayers for our troops, their families, our nation, our leaders and those in the path of these storms. Regards, DocRock
264 posted on 08/12/2004 6:51:31 AM PDT by DocRock (Check my homepage for more "home movies" of the Kerry campaign)
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To: DocRock
i pray that all is well for you and ALL! i went thru 'cleo' in lauderdale as a kid, and hope and pray you guys down there dont get hit too hard!

re: the little horn's id as antiochus epiphanes (#246). i dont think that the history of ae fulfills the prophetic description on several points, but i think ONE point (of disagreement with prophecy) would be enough to disqualify ae as being the little horn.

ae died more than a century before the birth of jesus, and did not (could not have) stood up against, or "magnified himself even to the prince of the host" (jesus). regards, john

265 posted on 08/12/2004 7:28:48 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4 (when the Democrats attack its campaigning, when the Republicans campaign its attacking)
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To: DocRock
In 7:2 is the words "great sea" = Med. Sea, (the actual geographical location of this prophecy)

I believe the actual geographical location is Shinar. See below verse... What would be the reason for the Med. Sea to be placed here?


Daniel 1:2 The Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, along with some of the vessels of the house of God; and he brought them to the land of Shinar, to the house of his god, and he brought the vessels into the treasury of his god.

The Land of Shinar
The Land of Shinar was a general geographic term for what is today Iraq, known in ancient times as Mesopotamia. There, two of the greatest of ancient empires, Assyria and Babylon, were centered. Shinar is mentioned very early in Bible History, it being the location of the famous "tower of Babel" that was constructed after the Flood.

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I agree with your meaning but cannot tie in Rev.17:15 please explain.

7:3 says, "And four great beasts came up from the sea" which refers to Rev. 17:15 "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
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I still don't get it HELP! Maybe we are using different translations. I am using NASB. I have cross referenced the cross references forward and backward. I still see that sea=peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues and that in the end from the sea the saints will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever.
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The following is (fill in the blank) with your interpretation.
Daniel 7
2 Daniel said, "I was looking in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven were stirring up the (Mediterranean Sea) great sea.
This will work and I understand....
3 "And four great beasts were coming up from the (peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues) sea, different from one another.

The Vision Interpreted

16 "I approached one of those who were standing by and began asking him the exact meaning of all this. So he told me and made known to me the interpretation of these things:
17 'These great beasts, which are four in number, are four kings who will arise from the earth.
18 'But the saints of the Highest One will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, for all ages to come.'
272 posted on 08/12/2004 5:19:58 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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