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If you love prophecy or are curious (maybe even nervous) about the future, you need to familiarize yourself with the book of Daniel, God's blueprint for prophecy. And in the midst of all its incredible prophecies that take us to the time of the end, Daniel gives us more than God's blueprint for prophecy! The book of Daniel provides us with someone we can pattern our lives after-a man who receives accolades in heaven's court and who is referred to as a "man of high esteem."
It is my prayer that your passion will be to live as a person of high esteen in the eyes of God and the angelic host who serve Him. I pray that you will come to know Him as El Elyon, the Most High God who does according to His will in His army and among the inhabitants of the earth. In that knowledge and the relationship it brings, you, my friend, will find the peace which passes all understanding and which is able to hold you in the darkest of nights. Such knowledge, Beloved,should enable you to be strong and do exploits... Kay Arthur http://www.precept.org/newindex.html
Welcome All. This is the beginning of the study of the book of Daniel. All thoughts are welcome. Keep one thought in mind...WE WILL ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE.
This is going to be an overview feel free to add to.
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Father we seek your face and Your true WORD. As Your WORD says... Matt18: 20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." This is our prayer to YOU Oh Most High God Maker of all. We praise Your Name and hold it up high. Thank you for bringing us to YOUR light. Give us wisdom and strength to carry the cross you have chosen for us.
ALL MY LOVE AND PRAISE!
AMEN
Daniel 1:1-21
Author=Daniel
Time=About 605BC
Backround=Daniel's prophetic ministry began and ended in Babylon. When Nebuchadnezzar first besieges Jerusalem in 606 BC, Daniel, who was about 15 years old, was among captives taken to Babylon.
As Moses predicted. Israel lost her place of supremacy among the nations because she did not obey GOD. Instead of becoming the head, Israel became the tail to be wagged by the Gentiles. Yet, because the gifts and calling of GOD are irrevocable, when the fullness of the Gentiles is complete, then all Israel will be saved, for the Deliverer will come out to Zion and take away Israel's sin. All this becomes evident as the prophecies of Daniel unfold.
Above is Excerpt from, The New Inductive Study Bible, New American Standard Bible.
Versus
1&2 The Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. Along with some of the vessels of the house of GOD. Nebuchadnezzar put the vessels in the treasury of his gods.
3-5 Nebuchadnezzar ordered Ashpenaz to bring the best of the best of the sons of Israel to Nebuchadnezzar to be groomed in his ways of the Chaldeans and have the best of everything the king had.
6-7 Amoung them were Daniel (Belteshazzar),Hananiah(Shadrach), Misheal(meshach) and Azariah(Abed-nego).
8-14 Daniel made up his mind not to defile himself with the kings food or wine. So GOD granted Daniel favor and compassion of the officials and made a deal for 10 days and compare there appearance to the others and see who is fittest.
15-16 At the end of the ten days they were fatter and better than the ones that had been eating the kings choice food.
17 As for these four youths, God gave them knowledge and intelligence in every branch of literature and wisdom; Daniel even understood all kinds of visions and dreams.
18-19 Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah entered the King's personal service.
20 As for every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king consulted them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and conjurers who were in all his realm.
21 Daniel continued until the first year of Cyrus the king.
Liberal scholars claim Daniel was written in the second century BC, yet Daniel predicts to the year the appearance of the Messiah (Jesus Christ). Would anyone recommend a decent scholarly book defending the early authorship of Daniel (sixth century BC)?
GREAT DAVEY,
FINE WITH ME.
It will be a lot easier to sort through on it's own thread. Sorry the other setup was so annoying to you.
Blessings and full steam ahead!
LUB,
Qx: I don't know what to make of all the below. But, it seems fitting to toss it into the Daniel study.
Part two can be found at the bottom of this doc at:
http://www.lastdaysprophecies.com/666/part_one.htm
I don't have time to reformat all the ALL CAPS stuff. That's how it is on the site.
Thanks Davey for all your work. May get to it this afternoon.
LUB,
bump for later read
FWIW in all this . . .
May I have your attention please?
by Michael G. Mickey
Christians, while I hasten to tell you it's time to start packing your suitcases for a ride into the heavenlies, the end must surely be drawing near, as demonstrated by a Haaretz article detailing how Israel is suddenly warming to the idea of an EU-UN role in Gaza.
For some time now, as those of you who regularly read my website know, I've been telling my readers to keep their eye on the international Quartet of Russia, the United States, the European Union, and the United Nations. Why? Because the goal of this group of many nations is to establish peace in the Middle East between Israel and her enemies.
The prophet Daniel tells us, as seen in Daniel 9:26-27, a seven-year covenant of peace is going to be confirmed in the Middle East by a leader who will confirm it with many.
>From the very first time I heard of the international Quartet's formation until the present, I have strongly felt the Quartet could be the group of nations Daniel was referring to. I'm not dogmatically saying this is the case, but it well could be, especially when we consider the prophet Zechariah's vision of Jerusalem becoming a cup of trembling and a burdensome stone in the last days.
Zechariah 12:2-3: Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Not only have I been telling my readers to keep an eye on the international Quartet, but to particularly keep an eye out for the European Union to take a leading role in the pursuit of Middle East peace. Why have I felt this could take place? For several reasons.
Bible prophecy identifies the European Union, the revived Roman empire foretold by the prophet Daniel, as the final empire that will rule the world prior to the return of Jesus Christ. Who will lead this empire? The leader I referred to earlier who will confirm the seven-year covenant of peace between Israel and her enemies - a man Daniel refers to as "the prince that shall come" in Daniel 9:26. This man will be the prophesied Antichrist who will bring about a new world order only to be broken without hand in the end by Jesus Christ at the battle of Armageddon.
As we look at the world today, the foundation for the Antichrist's new world order is already in place, partly in the form of the United Nations, a precursor to the Antichrist's new world order, and partly in the form of the European Union, a union of 25 nations we can be certain will eventually fall under the Antichrist's direct control. Interestingly, it's these two international unions that currently seem to be taking the lead in the peace process.
A few excerpts of interest from the Haaretz article:
Israel is warming to a United Nations and European Union role in the Gaza Strip following feedback received by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on the disengagement plan in telephone conversations with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and the EU head of foreign affairs, Javier Solana.
The pair discussed details of the plan, with Annan saying "the United Nations would be glad to assist as much as possible for the realization of the plan." The secretary general added that the international community would like to assist and contribute - in effort and resources - in order to ensure that the implementation of the disengagement plan is successful.
Annan has emphasized, however, that the United Nations, as one of the members of the Quartet, regards the disengagement plan as part of the road map.
By compiling the information shown in these excerpts, we see Kofi Annan and Javier Solana, speaking on behalf of the international community, are actively talking peace in the Middle East with Israel, vowing the international community is ready to assist and contribute to Ariel Sharon's Gaza pullout plan, viewing his plan as part of the Quartet's roadmap to peace - the goal of which is the creation of a Palestinian state and the division of Israel's covenant lands in the name of peace - a scenario I believe may ultimately lead to the rise of the Antichrist, which will, of course, be preceded by the Rapture of the Church.
It was only a few weeks ago that the European Union's top diplomat, Javier Solana, had a difficult and cold visit with Israel in the aftermath of the EU's decision to back the majority of the world in condemning Israel's separation barrier, creating an environment that left many wondering if the timing was wrong for the EU to pursue peace in the Middle East.
After Solana's visit to Israel concluded, I said I suspected things weren't nearly as bad as they seemed and predicted we hadn't seen the last of the EU pursuing peace in the Middle East. Less than a month later, it seems Israel has forgiven the European Union and is warming to the idea of the EU playing a major role in its Gaza pullout plan.
Do I have your attention yet?
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Here's a study I finished up some time ago, and it's not something that I set out to uncover. The information accumulated to the point where it became clear.
Revelation 4
The Throne Room of Heaven
1. After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, "Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this."
2. Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.
3. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. 4. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. 5. And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6. Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back. 7. The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. 8. The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying:
"Holy, holy, holy,
Lord God Almighty,
Who was and is and is to come!"
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The four living creatures are clearly constellations (stars / full of eyes around and within), so from this description can we determine the location of The Throne? I do believe so.
The first living creature was like a lion (Leo), the second living creature like a calf (Taurus), the third living creature had a face like a man (Aquarius), and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle (Lyra).
More background...
The word heaven is Shin-Mem-Yud-Mem, the same as the first instance of the word in Genesis 1.
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The History of Creation
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3. Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.
6. Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7. Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
It appears that the Milky Way is called the River Dinur, mentioned in Daniel 7:10 SEFER YETZIRAH, Aryeh Kaplan pg. 236
Light (Let there be Light) Alef-Vav-Reish, Genesis 1:3
Ur (of the Chaldees), Alef-Vav-Reish, Genesis 11:28,31.
Urim (the breastplate he placed the Urim and the Tumim) Alef-Vav-Reish-Yud-Mem (plural), Leviticus 8:8
Light, Ur and Urim are all related.
(See Strongs numbers 216, 218 and 224.)
Daniel 7
Vision of the Ancient of Days
9 "I watched till thrones were put in place,
And the Ancient of Days was seated;
His garment was white as snow,
And the hair of His head was like pure wool.
His throne was a fiery flame,
Its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued
And came forth from before Him.
A thousand thousands ministered to Him;
Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him.
The court was seated,
And the books were opened.
Rashi notes on Daniel 7:9-12
The Ancient of Days i.e., G-d will set up two thrones, one of strict justice, and the other of mercy. (Rashi)
Now, what constellation is in the center?
The Witness of the Stars
E. W. Bullinger
1893
20. Cygnus (the Swan)
This constellation repeats, emphasises, and affirms this glorious truth. It has to do with the Great Blesser and His speedy return, as is testified by all the ancient names connected with it.
In the Denderah Zodiac it is named Tes-ark, which means this from afar.
It is a most brilliant and gorgeous asterism of 81 stars; one of the 1st or 2nd, six of the 3rd, twelve of the 4th magnitude, etc. It contains variable stars, five double stars, and one quadruple. The star marekd "61 Cygni" is known as one of the most wonderful in the whole heavens. It consists of two stars which revolve about each other, and yet have a progressive motion common to each!
This mighty bird is not falling dead, like Aquila, but it is flying swiftly in mid-heaven. It is coming to the earth, for it is not so much a bird of the air, but a bird peculiarly belonging to both the earth and the waters. Its brightest star a (between the body and the tail), is called Deneb (like another in CAPRICORNUS), and means the judge. It is also called Adige, flying swiftly, and thus at once it is connected with Him who cometh to judge the earth in righteousness.
The star b (in the beak) is named Al Bireo (Arabic), flying quickly.
The star g (in the body) is called Sadr (Hebrew), who returns as in a circle.
The two stars in the tail, now marked in the maps as p I and p II, are named Azel, who goes and returns quickly; and Fafage, gloriously shining forth.
http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/
Cygnus
Alpha Cygni, Deneb (20h41m +45°17') has a magnitude of 1.3 and is a blue-white supergiant class A2 star. It is about 1600 light years distant. If Deneb was as close to us as the nearest star, Proxima Centauri (4.4 light years) Deneb would be as bright as the full moon in our sky! Deneb's luminosity is over 70,000 times greater than the Sun and is estimated to be 25 times more massive. Deneb has a transit date of August 2nd.
Beta Cygni, Albireo (19h28m.7 +27°51') has a magnitude of 3.1 and is a yellow class K3 star about 410 light years distant. Albireo is said to be one of the most beautiful double stars in the sky. The companion is 5.5 magnitude blue class B8 star.
Gamma Cygni, Sadr (20h22m +40°15') has a magnitude of 2.2 and is a white supergiant class F8 star. It is about 800 light years distant. Sadr is a binary system, the companion has a magnitude of 5.1 and is a blue-white star. Sadr has a transit date of September 12
http://www.starryskies.com/The_sky/constallations_html/cygnus.html
Sadr, Hebrew - Samech-Dalet-Reish, Order, Arrangement, row, Passover eve service. Ben Yehudas Hebrew-English Dictionary.
Excellent map of Cygnus and its location in the Milky Way.
http://www.hawastsoc.org/deepsky/maps/cyg/cyg.gif
Massive Star Forming Region DR21 in Infrared
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040414.html
His throne was a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire; A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. Bingo!
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Psalm 91
Safety of Abiding in the Presence of God
1. He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2. I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust."
3. Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler And from the perilous pestilence.
4. He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge;
under His wings
How many times have you read that?
Psalm 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
Indeed!
Interesting facts re: Cygnus
61 Cygni was the first star system (other than the Sun) to have its distance to Earth successfully calculated by Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel (1784-1846) using trigonometric parallax and the diameter of the Earth's orbit around the Sun in 1838. Smaller and dimmer than Sol, the stars are barely visible with the naked eye.
http://www.solstation.com/stars/61cygni2.htm
Eagles wings.
Exodus 19
3. And Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, "Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: 4. "You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings and brought you to Myself. 5. Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.
...and it goes on and on and on...
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Subject: Is Another War Brewing?
Do you recall as a child taking that long automobile trip somewhere and being so excited about arriving that you continually hounded your parents by asking: "Are we there yet, are we there yet?" In some ways, those of us who monitor news events with a view towards fulfillment of Bible Prophecy are like small children, as it seems we perpetually wonder: "Are we there yet?" Could humanity on Earth, indeed now be "there," (or should we say "here"?) at the exact moment, when the final acts of Biblical Prophetic fulfillment are indeed playing themselves out before our very eyes?
We are glad in one sense, and perhaps sad in another to say that we are NOT yet at that point. As Christians, we eagerly await the time when we will unite with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ and fulfillment of Bible Prophecy brings us to that moment of permanent presence with Him. We could be with Him in a matter of minutes or days, or hours or perhaps yet a number of years from reaching the exact moment when events do transpire.
I speak of such events as the first fiery judgment upon Mystery Babylon, or the shout of the Lord and the catching away the remnant of Believers into the clouds with the Lord, or the "man of sin" confirms or reaffirms a covenant with Israel.
We have long suspected that the very first event that will transpire before the eyes of the world will either be the Rapture of the Church or some supernatural intervention that somehow safely removes Believers from the geographical area (i.e. a nation) known as Mystery Babylon, followed swiftly by the fiery first destruction of Mystery Babylon.
There does seem to be a quickening of the pace of current events that seems to rushing headlong into some sort of major, historical turning point in human history that will unfold somewhere in the Middle East or some major event that unfolds on American soil. This quickening pace moves in fits and starts though as we have noticed but there does seem to be a trending direction and it is moving forward even if in a herky-jerky manner in the space-time continuum. This has been especially true since the events of 9-11 and the buildup to two wars in the Middle East.
Even before the US invasion of Iraq, we here at A-O have been monitoring comments from Mid-East experts as reported in the mass media and online as well as former residents of the Mid-East as well as military sources for their assessments of the future of Iraq. We have monitored such opinions and assessments based upon our own research work regarding the Biblical prophecies regarding a future Babylon, i.e. "Mystery Babylon.
We have posted articles here at A-O in the past regarding such opinions and conclusions about the future of Iraq. The majority of these sources speculated that Iraq would likely devolve into a civil war at some point after a US invasion instituted "regime-change." Now that regime-change has transpired, we here at A-O have watched the unfolding events evolve into a rapidly deteriorating situation inside Iraq, which points towards an impending civil war and or a partition of Iraq that will forever alter the geo-political landscape of the entire Middle East region. We ask ourselves how such changes will interact with what we already know about the Biblical prophecies pertaining to a future Babylon a.k.a. "Mystery Babylon."
We have been modestly quiet on this subject for the past several months in part because our earlier articles seemed to have remained up-to-date. That is perhaps about to change and thus, we are revisiting the subject amidst our own ongoing re-evaluation of our conclusions about the first destruction-judgment of Mystery Babylon.
We have recently noticed a British "think-tank" report regarding its study concerning the future of Iraq. The report concludes that Iraq is poised for a Civil War unless it can control the violence now being committed by various ethnic groups in the country, namely the Shi'ites and the Sunni Muslims.
The report says that failure by the interim government to stop the violence and establish order will lead to a destructive civil war and especially likely if the United States withdraws its military forces from that nation. The London-based "Royal Institute of Inter-national Affairs" issued its report, which noted that even if the US forces continue to prop up the interim government, the situation might still spiral out of control.
The report looked at various potential scenarios that might unfold over the next year and a half but none of the scenarios looks particularly promising for peace to develop any time soon. The various scenarios in general appear rather bleak at best.
The information from that "think-tank" report strongly suggests that a collapse of authority throughout the present nation of Iraq will lead to Iranian influence if not outright control over much of the Iraqi countryside except for northern areas under Kurdish control leaving the Kurds to break away and form their own nation. We also saw an interview on CNN with a Time magazine female news correspondent stationed in Iraq for the past 18 months (now back in the USA) who stated concerns that the future for Iraq was very grim and not at all optimistic that the US would be able to see the interim government build a new nation. This correspondent indicated that next year's scheduled elections seemed unlikely to transpire.
The specter of Iraq fragmenting would leave the door open to next-door neighbor involvement of Iran, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and possibly even Kuwait. Such a situation would likely end forever the concept of a nation called "Iraq" and most likely would create several smaller nations that would be poor and defenseless against neighboring nations. In such a situation, those smaller states would have a hard time even maintaining established borders.
Here at A-O we have been hearing of such possible outcomes since even before the war began. We have heard from "experts" interviewed in various media outlets. We have held our own private interviews and conversations with those having experience and know-ledge of the region and or lived in the region. Much of what we have tracked provides similar conclusions, which we have expressed in earlier articles published here at A-O.
Here is a compilation of what we have been able to put together only in light of the Biblical Prophecies about a future Babylon:
#1. Iraq is likely to break up into smaller nation-states. Those states will likely be poverty-stricken for many years, lacking sufficient natural resources to develop into any kind of strong nation - either militarily or economically.
Such smaller states that might have some oil resources will be hard-pressed to have sufficient monetary capital to exploit that oil to garner an advantage to build any kind of a militarily or economically powerful nation as noted in the Biblical prophecies of a future "Babylon." In other words, it would take several generations of development to get one of these smaller states that would arise out of Iraq, to build itself up to 2nd-world status let alone 1st-world status. Virtually every small regional nation that might emerge from what is present-day Iraq would likely be a pitiful 3rd-world nation for several generations to come if even that.
#2. Look For Iran, Turkey & Syria to Try To Carve Up Iraq More likely is a scenario in which Iran, Turkey and Syria would try to divvy up the biggest geographical portions of Iraq, leaving at most only small, desert regions in the south-western sector of present-day Iraq as perhaps 'independent nations.' Indeed, such a break up could even lead to conflicts between Iran and Turkey and Syria, but most likely, Iran could be the big winner. However, there is a caveat to all of this.
The caveat is Israel and the USA blocking Iran from gaining control by exerting military force i.e. a war against Iran and its nuclear weapons program. Such a war, could be viewed as necessary for not only the safety of Israel, Europe, and America, but also for the future of Iraq. In such a case, we could see a war in Iraq between Iranian invasion forces and Allied forces of the USA, UK, the EU, Russia and Israel and possibly even Turkey or per-haps Turkey might align itself with Iran for a share of the booty known as Iraq or for Muslim pride.
Most likely, such a war would end up becoming a 3rd World War between the Muslim world and Christianity. Such a war - might well be the Gog-Magog war we have written about in a previous 2-part Biblical study. [Part 1 here and Part 2 here.] Such a war could be just around the corner. Is such a war around the corner? Are we here at A-O predicting such a war and soon? NO! We merely mention that such is a real possibility but dependent upon a number of factors that must first-of-all fall into place but which now, does not seem likely.
We are also considering the possibility that such a war would be the start of a Mystery Babylon war that results in the devastation of US forces in Iraq and of Israel. We are even considering (just considering) the possibility that the Gog-Magog war is co-joined with the Divine judgment of Mystery Babylon America! We are still studying the possibilities as found in the Jeremiah 50-51 prophecies where context of events is somewhat murky.
It should be noted that - right now - from a Biblical Prophetic standard: #1. America "owns" Iraq/ancient Babylon. #2. America controls ancient Babylon's ruins. #3. U.S. troops are stationed in ancient Babylon. #4. America's Leaders (Bush, Congress) "rules" that entire land once known as Babylonia,
These facts alone, by Biblical Prophetic standards make the USA in the prophetical sense Babylon or better yet Mystery Babylon.
These facts stand totally independent of all of the remaining facts found inside the continental USA that demonstrate that America is more Babylonian in the Mystery Religion aspects than ancient Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar! Yes, that is correct. You have to know however, the hidden and "mystery" facts about the shadowy portion of the true America, which God sees and has seen all along.
Those shadowy facts are NOT in your history books. "America, The Babylon: Volumes 1 and 2" present 600+ pages of facts and data-points which reveal a hidden American government bound up in the Mystery Babylonian doctrines and dogmas of the Babylonian goddess Ishtar and the chief Babylonian mystery god, Baal. These "mystery doctrines" encompass the equally secret and mysterious doctrines of Freemasonry and Illuminism, which have controlled the American government secretly since 1776.
We will not go into such details in this article but encourage readers to do their diligent home work for themselves using such studies as "America, The Babylon" and "Red Moon Rising" and "Babylon, The Great Is Falling" as textbooks and roadmaps for the readers own individual research.
Suffice it to say that under the present circumstances, we are evaluating whether or not the first of two judgments upon Mystery Babylon/America is tied into a war on the Euphrates with Iran and her allies exclusively. We ask: "Is the first judgment itself a supernatural event conducted by angelic forces?" Thereafter will we find Iran and her allies' mop-up American forces in Iraq afterwards? Again, there are contextual issues that we are still evaluating in conjunction with other scholars now also part of the evaluation.
Other information we are evaluating involves the nearly constant (yet quietly under-reported in the media) threats coming from Iranian leaders towards either Israel, the United States or against both nations. Turkey and Iran are seemingly moving towards very close diplomatic ties as evidenced by a report from Debkafiles. Iran has heavily pressed Turkey to pull away from its prior close associations with Israel. Iran has done the same with former Soviet republics that have a predominant Muslim population.
Current Conclusions: At the moment, we can only conclude that we're not sure exactly how the first judgment will be executed, but we DO NOT BELIEVE the prophetic texts of scripture foretell of Mystery Babylon's first destruction on her homeland via a Red China - Russia or any other nation's nuclear attack or conventional invasion.
We are not so certain about an Iranian induced massive coordinated nuclear terror attack. We would consider that as perhaps a long shot interpretation of contextual issues of Jeremiah 50-51. We simply cannot completely rule it out, but contextually, we are more inclined towards the Iran-equation in the first judgment to be limited to the areas around the Euphrates and inside Israel.
We can conclude only that more study is necessary before drawing any "absolute" conclusions but we're still 99% convinced that the homeland of Mystery Babylon is destroyed by angelic forces in a direct angelic assault that takes place in less than an hour at some future point in time that leaves the continental United States a desert wasteland. We believe that either the Rapture of the Church will occur prior to this event, or angelic forces will whisk away believers to safety just as was the case with Lot and his family prior to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
We believe there is evidence of the rapture in Revelation 18:4 where we find the term: "Come out of her, my people." Such a verse may have dual use - both for the "rapture" and for the super-natural evacuation of the Jewish people from America. It would be the "shout" of the Lord.
One thing we are certain of - the first judgment - will encompass the entirety of the nation and not just the East Coast or New York City. It will include the East Coast, the South, the Midwest, and the West Coast along with Alaska and Hawaii too.
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Rumbling Rumors
This page features only the rumors and whispers about major news items that may or may not have a significant bearing on Biblical Prophecy Fulfillment.
What is presented here may or may not be true. We do not necessarily know the validity of items stated on this page. So take what you see and read on this page with a grain of salt.
Edited by H. Harris September 11, 2004
Russia-US Alliance? Or Backstabbing? It seems that for some, the Cold War will never go away. The latest terror attacks combined with the US moves on Iran could lead to a direct nuclear confrontation between the USA and Russia. Indeed there are some indicators that top Russian leaders believe in a shadowy "global conspiracy cabal" of international bankers intent on removing national governments and taking over the world in a 1-World government under their control.
These conspiracy theory notions have made news media reports from especially Russian military leaders as well as key economic advisors close to President Putin. Such conspiracy thinking how-ever is leading key Russian leaders to suspect the USA's top bankers are behind the terrorism and thus can blame the USA. Is this what was behind those veiled Russian military threats to launch pre-emptive action against terrorist bases anywhere in the world?
Would they attack the US if evidence showed the CIA was behind Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda? Such theories are playing into the speculations of some "America is Babylon" theorists.
However, R.A. Coombes, (author of "America, The Babylon") has noted that other speculation abounds concerning other Russian comments indicating that Russia wishes to work closely with the US Bush administration to join forces against this "international bankers cartel" a.k.a. "The Illuminati." If this is true then, it really does rule out any theories that Russia is going to be the one destroying Mystery Babylon - America.
As Coombes' has pointed out in his books and in an interview for AO -- "The biblical texts tell us that God and His sinless ones of an elite angelic unit will be the ones who will carry-out the surprise attack on America -- The Mystery Babylon."
It is entirely possible giving some signals coming out of the Putin government that Russia may well ally itself with the USA against Iran because Iran is behind the terrorism in Russia although other's in the Russia military think the terrorists are being led by an international banking cabal wishing to establish a 1-world government. Is the Illuminati Losing Control?
Talk among some conspiracy-theorists and some Bible Prophecy watchers in the past few days has included talk of news media reports out of Russia regarding "conspiracy theories" about the latest terror attacks as being carried out by a shadowy international banking cabal that is behind Al Qaeda. In essence these Russian comments, made mostly by Russian military leaders indicates that at least some of Russia's senior leadership is aware and opposed to "The Illuminati." Does this mean that the Illuminati are losing control?
Speculation has abounded in some "conspiracy-theory" circles that the Illuminati has fractured into 2 or more groups with each wishing to take commanding control of the planet to present humanity as a gift to Lucifer and the Antichrist when "he" is finally introduced and revealed. We do see some circumstantial evidence to suggest this possibility.
However, a common tactic of the Illuminati is to "PRETEND" for one wing to be at odds with another but privately behind the scenes there is no division, merely an illusion to throw off the enemy from realizing what is truly going on. Thus, we are inclined to believe that there is no factional fighting among Satan's forces.
China Strategy? Reports continue to conflict over whether or when Red China will attack and take-over Taiwan. Some believe that could happen at any moment. Others believe that either 2005 or 2006 will be the year - unless Taiwan leaders act first to declare their total independence in which case Red China will have no choice but to act immediately or "lose face."
We would not be surprised to see it happen at any point in time now. China's strategy for takeover does not require a full scale invasion either. A quick surgical airdrop of special units might be able to quickly surprise and overwhelm the top leadership officials leading to a shortened and quick, if not nearly bloodless victory, or so it would seem on paper to the Chinese strategists. Of course no military operation ever goes as planned on paper. There is of course the possibility that China will move on Taiwan during the coming crisis between the Allies and Iran.
Iran's Threat Is Real Intel sources report that Iran's new Shihab-3 missile now has a matching warhead that is capable of contain-ing a nuclear weapon. The Shihab-3 is reportedly sporting some real super-sophisticated electronics that makes it extremely accurate.
IF this is so, and if Israel's "Arrow" anti-missile system is no more reliable than the US "Patriot" anti-missile defenses, then Iran could make good on its claim to destroy Israel's nuclear power plant and destroy its stockpiles of nuclear warheads. A top Iranian general made that threat a few days ago, stating that should Israel attack Iran's nuclear sites, Iran would use its Shihab-3 to destroy the Israeli nuclear facility. Until now, Iran had no such reliable, accurate missile that could reach Israel.
Now that it has such capability, look for Iran to increasingly stick its nose into events in the Middle East.
Could Israel Take Out Iran's Nukes? Many experts say that Israel is helpless now against Iran. We don't think so. Israel reportedly has submarines that can launch nuclear-tipped cruise missiles from the Persian Gulf. Israel has its own commando forces (Flotilla-13) that could engage in unconventional warfare against such nuclear facilities.
So we wouldn't put anything past Israel's capabilities. Meanwhile, despite media reports that the Israeli "Arrow 2" anti-missile test failed, other insider sources suggest the latest test results for both the US Patriot and Arrow Missile tests (conducted jointly between the US and Israel in California) proved to be highly successful as both missiles scored knockouts of Iranian Shihab-3 missile and a "cruise" missile.
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Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to
pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your
redemption draweth nigh."
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