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CALVINISM MAKES GOD THE AUTHOR OF SIN
The GOSPEL TRUTH ^

Posted on 07/11/2004 7:06:05 AM PDT by thePilgrim

CALVINISM

CONTRARY TO GOD'S WORD

AND

MAN'S MORAL NATURE.

by

D. FISK HARRIS.

Copyrighted and Published by the Author

1890


In order to have an intelligent discussion of about the topic, which is the title of this thread, one must have at least a cursory knowledge of the work of John Calvin. Merely second sourcing citations will most likely quickly reveal to discerning posters that you are woefully ignorant of Calvinism.

I have provided an online book, of which I have skimmed, but not read every jot and title, for reference of a source which makes the claim that Calvinism does make God the author of Sin. See section 3 of the book.

(Excerpt) Read more at gospeltruth.net ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: calvinism; lapsarian
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To: ksen

WHATEVER!


301 posted on 08/20/2004 9:28:59 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: BSunday; ksen
Kindly don't "not ping" me again. I'll show you the same courtesy.

P.S. -- unless your name is Besty or Bob, I find your FReeper name offensive.

302 posted on 08/20/2004 9:38:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: BSunday
I could and still can defend it. I was just tired of the tenor of the discussions. I had already made up my mind to quit the discussion, and said so before your last post.

I really do not think your position is defendable by SCRIPTURE as opposed to tradition .

I have noticed when the question comes up and students of the word point out that it is not biblical , soon the crowd scatters because it is not easy to defend a non biblical position from scripture.

Perhaps another day huh?

Have a good day

303 posted on 08/20/2004 9:41:49 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
P.S. -- unless your name is Besty or Bob, I find your FReeper name offensive.

Yeah, you told me that before. Guess what - I don't care.

I don't consider a response to a person's comments to be a "ping", so if that's what you mean by ping, then I will ignore what you said because we live in a Free Country.

304 posted on 08/20/2004 9:46:44 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: RnMomof7
I really do not think your position is defendable by SCRIPTURE as opposed to tradition .

If you would like I will prepare a complete refutation of Calvinism for later post, since it is YOUR position that is unbiblical and did not even exist until the time of Calvin.

305 posted on 08/20/2004 9:48:20 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: BSunday
If you would like I will prepare a complete refutation of Calvinism for later post, since it is YOUR position that is unbiblical and did not even exist until the time of Calvin.

LOL people have been trying that for centuries. The faith of the ENTIRE reformation was Calvinism , so it would be necessary for you to refute the reformation.

Anyway the topic was infant salvation and the age of reason.Yes I would like to see your complete BIBLICAL argument on THAT

306 posted on 08/20/2004 9:55:55 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Stand by then, will post later as a separate article.


307 posted on 08/20/2004 9:57:03 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: BSunday
Guess what - I don't care (that my tag is offensive to Christians.)

Whatever.

308 posted on 08/20/2004 10:04:28 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: BSunday
Great I am looking forward to it and a discussion with you.

I am not around FR all the time , so please ping me and also ksen or snerkle and one of them will get to me if I do not see it. Blessings

309 posted on 08/20/2004 10:06:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Blessings

Thanks and to you too. I will try to have it up this weekend, but I'm not a doctorate or anything. Just working on my bachelor's (3 more semesters in between navy business)

310 posted on 08/20/2004 10:09:38 AM PDT by BSunday (Soon to be known by a different name, as soon as I think of one.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I apologize if you consider this a ping, I would just like to say I'm sorry for my last post. The attitude displayed was unchristian and shameful.

And you are right about my name. Someone who is against Calvinism should not go around calling themselves Bsunday (for Billy Sunday), even sarcastically.

Truce ?

311 posted on 08/20/2004 10:13:38 AM PDT by BSunday (Soon to be known by a different name, as soon as I think of one.)
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To: BSunday

~~"Truce?"~~

Sure.

Thanks for the ping. 8~)

FWIW, I've found positive tags to be preferable to negative tags, i.e. "I'm for something" rather than "I'm against something."

BTW, the funniest tag I ever read (I forget whose) was "Proudly posting without reading the article since 1999." I laugh just typing it.

If you ever want to read up on reformed theology and the faith of the Reformation, a good website is http://www.monergism.com


312 posted on 08/20/2004 10:51:25 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
BTW, the funniest tag I ever read (I forget whose) was "Proudly posting without reading the article since 1999." I laugh just typing it.

LOL me too. I love that one. Thanks for the link, I will be sure to check it out.

313 posted on 08/20/2004 10:53:01 AM PDT by BSunday (Soon to be known by a different name, as soon as I think of one.)
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To: BSunday
What's your degree in?

Or, if you're an English major, in what's your degree? 8~)

314 posted on 08/20/2004 10:58:55 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I don't have it yet. It's going to be in Bible. I am currently enrolled at Heritage Christian University distance learning program while I'm in the navy. They do the courses by VHS/DVD. Twice I have been to campus for summer session.


315 posted on 08/20/2004 11:27:23 AM PDT by BSunday (Soon to be known by a different name, as soon as I think of one.)
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To: BSunday
(3 more semesters in between navy business)

Hey way to go ! My son just became retired Navy .

Studies first !

316 posted on 08/20/2004 11:43:12 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; BSunday
P.S. -- unless your name is Besty or Bob, I find your FReeper name offensive.

Christians worship ON Sunday. We don't worship Sunday. And BTW the Sabbath is Saturday, named after the pagan god Saturn. So would you be equally offended by someone named BSaturday?

317 posted on 08/20/2004 11:55:07 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: BSunday

Good luck and God bless. We need more schooled Christians.


318 posted on 08/20/2004 12:02:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (Hey, RNC! Get Bob Dylan to sing "Saving Grace" at the Convention!)
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To: al_c

Hey Lerch you out there?

Hadn't talked to ya in a while.

I still never have liked you. :)

BigMack


319 posted on 08/20/2004 1:09:21 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7

Bump for my new name


320 posted on 08/20/2004 1:35:07 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (from the poster formerly known as BSunday)
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