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Posted on 04/01/2004 8:01:29 PM PST by Pyro7480
This is nonsense.
Missionary work is not undertaken merely for the benefit of what happens to the soul of the convert after death.
No. Missionary work is also aimed at the fullness of life that the convert experiences in this life.
True Christians are much happier on earth. The world is not evil, and we, as Christians are commanded to sanctify everyone with whom we come in contact here.
The Christian virtue of Hope leads us to pray that there are no souls in hell, and that all men can be led to respond the call of God for salvation.
Than they will be in Heaven?
The Christian virtue of Hope leads us to pray that there are no souls in hell, and that all men can be led to respond the call of God for salvation.
God is the God of Truth. He has said that MANY will end in hell, while FEW will end in Heaven. For you to believe otherwise is to believe in a lie. The God of mercy is also the God of justice. Those in hell chose by their own free will to go there; they hated God and His justice. God forces no one to love Him. He gave them a place to go.
He has not.
13 Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. 14 How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it! 15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.
Missionary work is not undertaken merely for the benefit of what happens to the soul of the convert after death.
Salvation of Souls is the Pivotal Goal of Missionary Work, whether anything else gets accomplished is secondary and irrelevant. Christ has taught us that "man does not live on bread alone." Of course this does not sit well with your Sandanista Maxist view.
Your persistent rejection of Church teaching on Hell as evidenced in the other thread also by stating "The Church has never defined dogmatically that there are people in hell." as well as your rejection on the same thread of another solemn teaching of the Church on Unbaptised Infants by stating repeatedly"That is not a teaching. It is a speculation." makes you a two time Public and Material Heretic this past week.
I'll ask again, how many doctrines do you intend to deny in a week's time?
Liberals like yourself can't stand being in a Church, any Church for that matter, that teaches there Is Hell and there are people in it. You should be honest about this and let everyone know. But since you won't do it, I'll do it for you.
You have some nerve jumping on others that they are not in communion with Rome (even if that's true).
A Public and Material Heretic is NOT in communion with Rome even tho he carries the fraudulent name "catholic".
The sentence may be understood, (or misunderstood) in two ways, that the Church doesn't state dogmatically that hell for people exists, or that the Church does not specify who is in hell or the "minimum required" population of hell (Hitler, Stalin, Osama, etc. everyone has a list ;)), something that would be the opposite to the process of canonization. I certainly hope Sink meant the latter.
It is the truth of faith that hell exists, as it is the truth of faith that God does not intend anyone at all to go to hell.
Jesus says,
What is your opinion? If a man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine in the hills and go in search of the stray? And if he finds it, amen, I say to you, he rejoices more over it than over the ninety-nine that did not stray. In just the same way, it is not the will of your heavenly Father that one of these little ones be lost. (Matthew 18:12-14)And the first Pope teaches,
The Lord (...) is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)All things are possible to God.
I think a certain amount of ambiguity is okay for people like Hans Urs von Balthasar, who was very orthodox in most areas but somewhat of a mystic, with the usual mystic's lack of precision, and Fr. Neuhaus, who is a journalist and political/religious philosopher. But it's not okay for the Pope, and the Pope's occasional ambiguity on doctrinal matters and failure to enforce orthodoxy unless challenged in the most extreme terms is what is truly dangerous.
But I thought it was very well explained by Romano Amerio, who is quoted in the article as writing:
Now, the peculiar feature of the pontificate of Paul VI was the tendency to shift the papacy from governing to admonishing, or in scholastic terminology, to restrict the field of preceptive law, which imposes an obligation, and to enlarge the field of directive law, which formulates a rule without imposing any obligation to observe it.
This is an excellent analysis of what happened. Oddly enough, it happened to some extent in secular society, too, where laws continued to exist but penalties for violating them disappeared or were vitiated. We all probably remember the days in the 1970s when people got sentences of 7 years with "time off for good behavior" for first-degree murder.
But I think that as goes Rome, so goes the world. I have always felt that the breakdown in authority and law in the secular sphere, along with the rejection of traditional patterns of behavior, would never have happened had it not happened first in the Church. What happened in the Church gave permission for the same thing to happen in the secular world, and took away the only secure defense against it.
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