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To: Pyro7480
But if everybody will be saved or if Catholics may entertain true doubts whether anybody at all will end up in Hell, then a key motivation for missionary work and Catholic evangelism is subverted.

This is nonsense.

Missionary work is not undertaken merely for the benefit of what happens to the soul of the convert after death.

No. Missionary work is also aimed at the fullness of life that the convert experiences in this life.

True Christians are much happier on earth. The world is not evil, and we, as Christians are commanded to sanctify everyone with whom we come in contact here.

The Christian virtue of Hope leads us to pray that there are no souls in hell, and that all men can be led to respond the call of God for salvation.

6 posted on 04/01/2004 8:19:13 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
True Christians are much happier on earth.

Than they will be in Heaven?

The Christian virtue of Hope leads us to pray that there are no souls in hell, and that all men can be led to respond the call of God for salvation.

God is the God of Truth. He has said that MANY will end in hell, while FEW will end in Heaven. For you to believe otherwise is to believe in a lie. The God of mercy is also the God of justice. Those in hell chose by their own free will to go there; they hated God and His justice. God forces no one to love Him. He gave them a place to go.

12 posted on 04/01/2004 8:50:37 PM PST by TradicalRC (Fides quaerens intellectum.)
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To: sinkspur; Pyro7480; Hermann the Cherusker; ninenot; Aquinasfan; heyheyhey; ultima ratio; ...
But if everybody will be saved or if Catholics may entertain true doubts whether anybody at all will end up in Hell, then a key motivation for missionary work and Catholic evangelism is subverted.

Missionary work is not undertaken merely for the benefit of what happens to the soul of the convert after death.

Salvation of Souls is the Pivotal Goal of Missionary Work, whether anything else gets accomplished is secondary and irrelevant. Christ has taught us that "man does not live on bread alone." Of course this does not sit well with your Sandanista Maxist view.

Your persistent rejection of Church teaching on Hell as evidenced in the other thread also by stating "The Church has never defined dogmatically that there are people in hell." as well as your rejection on the same thread of another solemn teaching of the Church on Unbaptised Infants by stating repeatedly"That is not a teaching. It is a speculation." makes you a two time Public and Material Heretic this past week.

I'll ask again, how many doctrines do you intend to deny in a week's time?

Liberals like yourself can't stand being in a Church, any Church for that matter, that teaches there Is Hell and there are people in it. You should be honest about this and let everyone know. But since you won't do it, I'll do it for you.

You have some nerve jumping on others that they are not in communion with Rome (even if that's true).

A Public and Material Heretic is NOT in communion with Rome even tho he carries the fraudulent name "catholic".

16 posted on 04/01/2004 9:38:12 PM PST by m4629
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To: sinkspur
Missionary work is not undertaken merely for the benefit of what happens to the soul of the convert after death. No. Missionary work is also aimed at the fullness of life that the convert experiences in this life.

True, but the latter is much less important. What good is it if a man gains the world but loses his salvation?

22 posted on 04/02/2004 5:30:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sinkspur
I do believe your words about the virtue of Hope are spot on.

It is so very good to hold out hope that even those whose actions we must, as Christians, condemn

might have had a final commmunication with the Lord in which they expressed contrition and accepted Him.

Such hope is no sign of universalism or acceptance of lives of sin.

Rather, it is a proper sign of love
for those whom God himself loves
even while they commit their sins.

God loves sinners before during and after sin.
We must do the same.
We are called to do the same.
102 posted on 04/06/2004 1:51:44 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Good parents don't let their kids attend public school or watch most TV)
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