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To: RnMomof7
We say it was because the Father draws them.

Rilly? I'd never thought of that. But now that you mention it, I shall adopt this as my doctrine as well. I think I've said it before, but it only counts when I say it in agreement with you, I guess.

That the Holy Spirit quickened them and restored the will that was in bondage because of the fall ...and you say ?

We would say that the Holy Spirit draws us and those who respond are then quickened. But you already knew that, you just can't fathom it. And further, that the sin of the first Adam is overcome by the grace of the second, and that this prevenient grace draws all unto God.

4,503 posted on 04/15/2004 3:52:51 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: the808bass
We would say that the Holy Spirit draws us and those who respond are then quickened. But you already knew that, you just can't fathom it. And further, that the sin of the first Adam is overcome by the grace of the second, and that this prevenient grace draws all unto God.

So then the scripture is wrong the Father does not draw, it is the Holy Spirit?

Can I have some scripture not just your opinion? :>)

Only one of us is posting the word of God.

Scripture that the Holy Spirit draws not the Father and scripture that what we call General grace (you call Prevenient grace draws every one to salvation and then it is theirs to loose.)

4,507 posted on 04/15/2004 4:07:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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