Posted on 02/23/2004 8:48:43 PM PST by Destro
Jesus Scholars Find Fault in Gibson's 'Passion'
Mon February 23, 2004 09:07 PM ET
By Megan Goldin
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Mel Gibson's portrayal of the final 12 hours of Jesus in his film "The Passion of the Christ" has been hailed as the gospel truth by some believers, but many scholars complain that it is riddled with historical errors.
Their complaints range from inaccuracies about hairstyles and clothes to a lack of gospel context in the film which has raised a furor among Jewish groups who fear its graphic depiction of the crucifixion will fan anti-Jewish violence.
Gibson, who has denied the film is anti-Semitic, has said he consulted scholars, theologians, priests and spiritual writers before scripting the film with the aim of making Jesus's agony during the crucifixion appear as realistic as possible.
Many Christians see the film as bringing them closer to their religion. Evangelical preacher Billy Graham called the film "a lifetime of sermons in one movie."
Gibson, a traditionalist Catholic, was so determined to make the $25 million film which he funded himself that he had his characters speak in Latin and Aramaic.
Experts say this was his first mistake as Greek was the language spoken in Jerusalem during Jesus's time, along with Aramaic and some Hebrew spoken by Jews.
"Jesus talking to (Pontius) Pilate and Pilate to Jesus in Latin!" exclaimed John Dominic Crossan, a professor of religious studies at the Chicago-based Roman Catholic De Paul University. "I mean in your dreams. It would have been Greek."
Latin was reserved for official decrees or used by the elite. Most Roman centurions in the Holy Land spoke Greek rather than Latin, historians and archaeologists told Reuters.
The mistakes, experts say, didn't stop with the wrong language, which Crossan -- who speaks Latin -- said was so badly pronounced in the film that it was almost incomprehensible.
"He has a long-haired Jesus...Jesus didn't have long hair," said physical anthropologist Joe Zias, who has studied hundreds of skeletons found in archaeological digs in Jerusalem. "Jewish men back in antiquity did not have long hair."
"The Jewish texts ridiculed long hair as something Roman or Greek," said New York University's Lawrence Schiffman.
Along with extensive writings from the period, experts also point to a frieze on Rome's Arch of Titus, erected after Jerusalem was captured in AD 70 to celebrate the victory, which shows Jewish men with short hair taken into captivity.
Erroneous depictions of Jesus in Western art have often misled film makers in their portrayal of Jesus, experts said.
JEWISH GROUPS VS GIBSON
For some scholars the errors go beyond language or hairstyles.
They say the heart of the problem is the film's script which interweaves the literal interpretation of four sometimes contradictory gospel accounts of Jesus' last 12 hours with the visions of a controversial 19th century nun.
"This is my version of what happened, according to the gospels and what I wanted to show," Gibson told the U.S. television network ABC this month.
But Crossan complained that the lack of historical context was the movie's "basic flaw."
The film begins not when Jesus enters Jerusalem to the exuberant welcome of thousands of Jews but rather at night in a garden on the eve of the crucifixion when he is arrested by the Romans after being betrayed by Judas.
"Why did they need a traitor? Why did they need the night? Why didn't they grab him in the daytime?" Crossan asked.
"Because they did not want a riot," he said, explaining that Jesus was immensely popular among his fellow Jews, which is why the high priests and Romans felt threatened by him.
Those details, Crossan said, were absent in the film.
"The lack of context is the most devastating thing for anyone who says it (the film) is faithful to the gospels because the gospels have the context," he told Reuters. One of the most controversial aspects of the film is its portrayal of Pilate reluctantly sentencing Jesus to crucifixion under pressure from a bullying mob and conniving Jewish priests. Scholars acknowledge the scene is faithful to the gospels, but some experts say a historical perspective is imperative.
"It is important to see the historical context. Not only for the sake of being true to history but for the sake of being true to the gospel passages themselves," said Father Michael McGarry, rector of the Tantur Ecumenical Institute in Jerusalem.
The gospels, he said, were written many years after the crucifixion at a time when the early Christians felt it would be politically wise to "soften Pontius Pilate as a way of placating" the Romans who ruled over them.
"Pontius Pilate was a very cruel and brutal man. And he wouldn't care two winks about executing another Jew. He had killed so many before him," said McGarry, who said he had not seen the film and was commenting only on the history of the time.
CRUCIFIXION WAS "STATE TERROR"
Crucifixion was a common punishment meted out by the Romans to rebellious Jews during Jesus's time. The Romans crucified so many Jews, said Zias, that "eventually they ran out of crosses and they ran out of space."
The depiction of the crucifixion was the part of the film most riddled with errors for Zias, who studied the skeleton of a crucified Jewish man from Jesus's time -- the only remains ever found of a crucified victim from antiquity.
Zias said Jesus would not have carried the entire cross to the crucifixion as vertical beams were kept permanently in place by the ever efficient Romans.
"Nobody was physically able to carry the thing (the entire cross).It weighed about 350 pounds," Zias said. "He (Jesus) carried the cross-beam, maximum."
Nor would Jesus have worn a loin-cloth in the crucifixion as did actor James Caviezel who portrayed him in the film.
"Crucifixion was a form of state terror. They humiliated the crucified victim. Everybody was naked. Men, women and children," Zias said. Jesus, he added, would have been tied or nailed to the cross through the wrists, not the hands as shown in the film. "You cannot crucify a person through the hands because there is nothing there but skin and muscle. It will tear."
Brushing off criticism of inaccuracies, Gibson has said he found contradictory opinions among the experts he consulted.
"Since the experts canceled each other out, I was thrown back on my own resources to weigh the different arguments and decide for myself," Gibson said in one interview.
Well, there's hints within the Gospel of John itself that John is using a different time scale; here's one:
But, admittedly, you have to look for such hints; so I should give you credit for the fact that John's time-scale is different is not immediately apparent.
However, there is a very obvious indication that John was using a different time-scale from the Synoptics -- the fact that the Early Church canonized both John and the Synoptics despite the (apparent) difference in hour-counts. We moderns have a tendency to think ourselves smarter than our forebears, but that just ain't the case -- if there were an obvious discrepancy between John and the Synoptics which did not arise from some identifiable difference in measurement (that is, John's use of Roman time), do you really think that the Early Fathers would have canonized John along with the Synoptics? They threw out a lot of other early "pseudo-gospels" which conflicted with the Synoptics in one way or the other; if John's Gospel did conflict with the Synoptics, what makes you think they would have included it in the Canon?
That's one consideration we should always remember when approaching alleged Bible "discrepancies" -- our forebears were not, in fact, more dullardly than are we. If there's an apparent discrepancy between one book of the Bible and another, it behooves us to ask: Why did the ancients not see a discrepancy here? What did they see, that I'm not seeing?
Until we ask that question in regard to any apparent "contradictions" in Scripture, we haven't really done our homework.
Which surprised the cohort commander, too :-D
It's called "educated beyond their intelligence" :D
Mainly because it's not a theological discrepancy. "Pseudo-gospels" were rejected on theological errors -- such as Gnostic narcissism or denying divinity of Christ or his dual natures.
The explanation of two different systems of time-keeping are not only likely but almost certain based on the historical knowledge of the times, but the reason I asked was to see if this could be explained on biblical and not profane knowledge.
Ahh... gotcha.
Well, as mentioned above -- it's the belief of Church Tradition that John wrote his gospel at a later date than the Synoptics, and wrote from Ephesus to a Hellenistic congregation, so it is (IMHO reasonably) presumed that he wrote using a Roman time-scale for his audience. But that's admittedly based on the records of Church Tradition, rather than an explicitly Biblical record of the fact.
As far as I can tell, John's Gospel does not explicitly inform us of his usage of the Roman time-scale -- it's just implied (as mentioned above) by the necessity of completing the ordeal of the Crucifixion prior to the Sabbath (John 19:31), which would unrealistically compress the time-frame of the Crucifixion if John were using a Hebrew time-scale. So, it's a valid inference from John's Gospel (again IMO) -- but it's an inference nonetheless, not a directly explicit statement.
best, OP
You've made none.
Mel's sneak attempt to insert Traditionalist Catholic dogma
Don't know what you mean by Traditionalist Catholic dogma, but here is an idea, make your own 20 million movie and insert your dogma of choice, genius.
Unlike Mel, I can read the New Testament in its original Greek and thus I don't need a 50 million dollar epic that distorts history for the sake of sectarian ego.
That should give you a clue that Greek was probably not as common as the highly educated geniuses know-it-all-thru-and-thru Mel-Gibson-bashing experts suggest.
The Greek of the earliest surviving texts on the Gospels have nothing to do with the spoken (or not spoken) Greek in Judea in the times of Christ. In fact, there are some high-octane, know-it-all, best-in-their-classroom experts who say that the first Gospel texts could have been written in Aramaic.
You see, even an educated genius can learn something new every day. :)
I'll tell you what; let you and your scholars resolve first the accuracy of following scientific mysteries The Da Vinci Code, The James Ossuary, and "Jesus' Son" before they jump all over Gibson's masterpiece.
Then why did the Gospel writers chose Greek over any other langauge???? Try again. Mel is an actor with an agenda. He is not the Pope nor is he an expert on anything other than movie making so forgive me if I have no respect for Mel's biblical scholarship.
Who told you that? Greek is the language of the surviving ancient translations of the New Testament books. Only a few of them, if any, could have been written originally in Greek. We still call Greek the 'original' NT language because that's all we have.
Just like until the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls in Qumran some of the Old Testament texts were known only from their ancient Greek translation - the Septuagint.
Getting wiser by the minute. :)
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