A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ

Vanity | 2/21/04 | John Fields

[savedbygrace]

GSs, you apparently missed the point. We are to pray to God, not to saints. I agree Mary is blessed AMONG women. Not to be prayed to, though.

Jesus taught us how to pray, TO THE FATHER. Surely, you're not suggesting anyone has authority above Jesus to authorize any other prayer, are you?

[Leonine]

In the mid-1800s, the Church adopted a doctrine known as the Immaculate Conception. This is the belief, based on tradition, not the Bible, that Mary's mother, who has been dubbed "Anne," conceived Mary without sin even as Mary conceived Christ without sin. In the 1950s, the Church adopted a doctrine known as The Assumption. This is the belief that Mary ascended by her own merit, which is quite different from Enoch or Elijah who were drawn up but did not ascend. Again, this is not a Biblical but a traditional doctrine.

[Senator Pardek]

Must be a different satellite?

[BigSkyFreeper]

PAX is actually on DISH, DirecTV, they also have local "over the air" (rabbit ear) stations nationwide. A channel in one town like Miami may not be the same channel as one in Phoenix, unless you have a satellite dish.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Lisa has Adelphia Digital Cable

[Travis McGee]

Thank you.

[CyberAnt]

"To be forsaken of the Father, for me, so that I would not have to be forsaken"

To me .. that always represented the most awful thing Jesus ever had to go through .. He had never been separated from His Father.

[CyberAnt]

It wasn't her faithfulness (although that was important), it was really about her pureness (holiness) and her humanness.

[Trinity_Tx]

"If their faith was strengthened that much, it must not have been much to begin with or of the kind Jesus spoke to Thomas about: "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

The fact that even Thomas needed more than to be told (even first hand) that Jesus had indeed risen as He had promised makes me feel better about my own lack of faith.

Thomas had so much more to go on than we. Here he was, a beloved, chosen disciple of Christ, who had heard his sermons directly, slept and ate with Him, and witnessed all those miracles, and yet he was only mildly rebuked (not to mention not sent to everlasting torture in Hell) for doubting.

We, however, have a multitude of conflicting interpretations of a Bible written centuries ago, translated and edited centuries later.

I must choose which man's interpretation is correct, and have faith in them, trusting myself to be truly unbiased, led only by The Spirit in discerning between false and true...

And be confident that all those who are just as convicted that they hear the true spirit telling them my convictions are wrong, are themselves misguided, and however well-meant, they are victims of other influences from which I hold myself to be immune.

[madison10]

Why do you use intercessors who still possess their human body to intercess for you when you can go directly to Christ the Mediator?

"Is any of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is anyone sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anonint him with oil in the name of the Lord.

And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; The Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven.

Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. Ephesians 5:13-16 (NIV)

[madison10]

That would be James NOT Ephesians.

[GatorGirl]

Ping!

[Ohioan from Florida]

He had never been separated from His Father.

I, too, think that must have been the hardest part. Something that only Jesus Christ could do, and no one for Him, or be there all the way through it with Him. Satan probably was laughing. Until Jesus came through it all.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Each one of us has to believe in Him and read and understand the Word. If we read and understand the Word, that's all that matters. I might interpret the Word differently than my next door neighbor, doesn't make me right and my neighbor wrong, or the other way around. It's the understanding of the written Word, the daily walk with Jesus, and the trust and belief in Jesus that matters.

[GirlShortstop]

Jesus taught us how to pray, TO THE FATHER

Can I infer then that the only prayer you say is the Our Father?

[padfoot_lover]

I ask them to pray FOR me, just as Paul asked Timothy and the other believers to pray for him.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Very good! It sounds like we are in agreement over a number of things now. We all learn from each other.

[BigSkyFreeper]

We all learn from each other.

Just like the Trinity. :)

[Leonine]

Ditto. The spiritual suffering of "Eloi, eloi, lama sabachthani" is beyond comparison or even our human comprehension. The physical suffering was horrendous as well, for "His visage was marred beyond any man" so that His face did not even appear human. The emotional suffering of the betrayals, griefs, and remorses of our sins must be added as well. Every time we sin, we spit, we mock, we lash.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Thanks so much for your review. It's really moving.