A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ

Vanity | 2/21/04 | John Fields

[GirlShortstop]

Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace...."
If so, and you don't consider Mary to be divine...

sbg, are you opposed to understanding Catholicism?   The truth of the matter can be found with very little effort.  FReegards.

"And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb. And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed [is] she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For He hath regarded the low estate of His handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For He that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy [is] His name." - Luke 1:41-49

Catholics properly venerate the Mother of God.

"All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship."515  The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion . . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration."516  The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.517  Catholic Catechism

"There are not many people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church, but thousands of people who hate what they mistakenly believe the Catholic Church to be."
Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

[Right_in_Virginia]

Thank you for your review.

[jwalsh07]

Where does it say Mary can help pray for us?

In the Catholic Catechism. LOL

On a more serious note there is scripture supporting intercessors in heaven. I'd be happy to find some if you'd like. In fact:

In Revelation, John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8).

[Clintons a commie]

Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."?

I pray that prayer every day, in imitation of the Angel Gabriel and St. Elizabeth. I guess they were necromancers too. ;)

[sarasmom]

Got a degree in the Liberal Arts, huh?
WWJD was a simple reminder to Christians to ask themselves: What would Jesus do?
It is possible that overanalysis of simple concepts leads to insanity.
Or excessive tinfoil consumption.
Think about it.LOL!

[Ohioan from Florida]

Does it say anywhere that she can't help pray for us? Besides, Mary would never do anything that wasn't in God's will. It sort of like the miracle at Cana. She saw that something was wrong, and she asked Jesus to do something about it. It's like that with us. She loves us, too.

[jwalsh07]

YW!

[Clintons a commie]

Yeah, but Mary is physically dead. How can one ask a dead person to pray for them?

have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Bishop Sheen was a wise man.

[DoctorMichael]

Thank you for the heartfelt and intelligent analysis of the film. One of your best lines:

"....I could just as easily be moved to be against Italians for what the Romans did as I could be against the Jews...."

Kind of puts all this ginned up manic hysteria over the supposed anti-semitic leanings of the film in perspective doesn't it.

Thanks again.

[Windsong]

"...healing His own wounds, and then saying go to it boys as He releases the angels to take care of business."

Heh, nice visual image there :)

[mollynme]

She was taken up to heaven body and soul.

And the verse in the Bible that states this is....?

[wimpycat]

Yeah, but Mary is physically dead. How can one ask a dead person to pray for them?

The same way you can ask a living person to pray for you. Like the Bible verse says, "Just as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

[wtc911]

If you don't get the Mary as intercessor thing why bother to try. You don't need to. And, those of us who do owe you no explanation. No offense meant.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Are you subscribing to cable or satellite

PAX is on:

DirecTV channel 255

Dish Network channel 181

Cable TV channel varies

[Ohioan from Florida]

It is not stated in the Bible. But not everything that Christians believe is stated explicitly in the Bible. All that is necessary for our salvation, yes, but not everything that happened.

[LisaMalia]

I have Adelphia digital.

[BigSkyFreeper]

HAH! Everything is on channel 4 for me.

[freedox]

"I've chatted with three VERY Christian women who don't know if they can make it through the whole film - and, more than likely, won't go to see it."

"My mother is a devout Catholic (mass every day) and she said she won't see it. I think it's the violence."

I admire these women for their decisions and I think they are very wise to have thought this through before rushing off to see the movie. I have been concerned by what I consider to be somewhat shallow, rah-rah attitudes from many who are anxious to "show their support" for this film. From all that I have read, it is not going to be a walk through the park.......rather, it's going to be a profoundly disturbing portrayal of the brutality that Jesus suffered. I intend to thoroughly prepare myself before going to see this movie, and I sincerely hope that others will do the same. I think one of the worst things that could happen to this film would be for Christians to unthinkingly flock to it simply to "show their support" and then wind up fleeing the theater and criticizing the film as being "too violent."

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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PAX's 'The Making of the PASSION'

9pm Sunday, February 22, 2004
9pm Tuesday, February 24, 2004
( See: http://www.PAX.tv )



See Director MEL GIBSON in his "WE WERE SOLDIERS" Army Fatigue shirt, possibly with the name MOORE sewed right there on it..?

For GOD does indeed work his Miracles in some very loving ways..?


Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Radioman-Driver-Orderly to MEL GIBSON's Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE in Vietnam

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
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