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To: af_vet_1981
Nice bullets.

I'd like to see every sinner healed of his sins ... however unlikely it may seem.

1) "Denying the Holocaust" is not the only, or even the worst rhetorical sin one might commit.

2) I have seen (and so have you, that's why we're having this discussion) Abe Foxman, Schmuely Boteach and others hurl wholesale accusations of "anti-Semitism" at Christians. The essence of their argument is that Christians are closet Jew-haters and the film The Passion of Christ will inflame hidden hatred of Jews therefore, the film must not be released, or must be released only after being rewritten to our specifications. I hope you're smart enough to realise that their argument is at best flame-bait and at worst evidence of irrational hatred and paranoid fear of Christians, and denounce it as such.

3) I plucked the name "James Rudin" from the article we're discussing on this thread. He's quoted making a bigoted anti-Christian comment. That's all I know about him.

114 posted on 02/20/2004 12:45:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I don't think Abe's really an anti-Christian. Rather I think he's trying to scare Jews into sending him money. He's using his people for his own organizations gain.
115 posted on 02/20/2004 12:50:11 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: ArrogantBustard
The essence of their argument is that Christians are closet Jew-haters and the film The Passion of Christ will inflame hidden hatred of Jews

The argument I thought was framed was

The essence of their argument is that some Gentiles, basically outside of the United States, are very susceptiple to antisemitism and the film The Passion of Christ will inflame their hatred of Jews. That is the argument I thought Abe Foxman was making. It is a legitimate historical argument. It does not argue against movies about Yeshua of Nazareth, only against movies or plays that led to the persecution of the Jews. He really has no platform from which to tell Catholics what to believe. They look to the Vatican for that leadership.

117 posted on 02/20/2004 12:53:49 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: ArrogantBustard
"Denying the Holocaust" is not the only, or even the worst rhetorical sin one might commit.

Agreed

I watched another movie last night, Fiddler on the Roof. As funny as it can be, it is also poignantly sad. Two thirds of Europe's Jews would be killed in the Holocaust and I couldn't help thinking many of the Jewish children depicted in that movie would not survive the Holocaust. They would be ruthlessly hunted down and murdered. Those who fled on a ship to America would be turned back to Germany. It was really quite sad for me.

We know Jews are not the only victims of genocide. Most recently it happened to the Tutsis and the world watched. Rhetoric that leads to genocide and terrorism is worse than Holocaust Denial but they are cousins.

119 posted on 02/20/2004 1:02:35 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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