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Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")
FOX ^ | Friday, February 20, 2004 | By Roger Friedman

Posted on 02/20/2004 5:46:17 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Mel Gibson's put his money where his mouth is. By now everyone in the world knows he's spent $25 million to make "The Passion of the Christ" and promised nearly $25M more to market it.

But what you may not know is that Gibson has also put up $5.1 million so far to run his own personal church near Malibu.

Last year Christopher Noxon wrote in The New York Times that Gibson had donated $2.3 million to make Holy Family Catholic Church in Agoura Hills, California a reality. Holy Family rejects the universally accepted teachings of the Second Vatican Conference and chooses to stick with antiquated Catholic ideology.

Bu it turns out that Gibson has donated a little more than twice that amount to Holy Family since 1999, according to federal tax filings. And that's not counting 2003, since the most recent report has not yet been filed.

Gibson and his wife Robyn are listed in federal tax records as directors of the Holy Family Catholic Church. The church is run out of Gibson's Icon Production company offices, with an Icon employee responsible for keeping the church's books.

The Gibsons' tax-free donations to Holy Family are made possible by a charity they established called the AP Reilly Foundation, which is named for Mel's late mother. The foundation was created on October 29, 1999 for the sole purpose of creating the church.

The church, by the way, has an unlisted phone number, keeps its address a secret and has asked those who have the information not to release it.

Gibson is no stranger to controversy when it comes to voicing his opinion about his religious beliefs. In a 1992 interview with the Spanish magazine El Pais, his comments about homosexuals — which cannot be printed here — caused an international stir.

In the same interview Gibson talked about the fact that his brand of Traditionalist Catholics did not subscribe to the Second Vatican Council's 1965 rulings on various subjects including who was responsible for the death of Jesus Christ.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; catholiclist; christianlist; clashofcivilizatio; medianews; presstitutes
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'm confused - is Mel Gibson Catholic or not?
141 posted on 02/20/2004 9:33:30 AM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: AgThorn
"The dwindling number of parishioners was much more severe pre-V2 than the church is facing now "

I would like to see your evidence for this statement. It contradicts everything I have seen.
142 posted on 02/20/2004 9:34:12 AM PST by rogator
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To: Happy2BMe
"And when will Islam or wahhabism be spoken of with such disdain?"... What a wonderful question . .

When we decide to confront our enemies. I'm willing to accept that it's not the fault of mainstream (maybe just a little stream) Islam. We'll likely have to pick a new name, jihadism or something, we may have to include some of our "friends" in the newfound movement, but it's time to do it.

143 posted on 02/20/2004 9:36:07 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: ultima ratio
I have a hard time understanding Jewish objections to the film. I thought at first that they were offended by Gibson's leaving in the speech by Caiaphas in Matthew which was turned by the ignorant into a belief in "blood libel."

But now that it's been taken out, that doesn't seem to have improved matters.

Do they object to the teachings in the Gospels about the Sanhedrin requesting that the Romans crucify Jesus, period?
144 posted on 02/20/2004 9:38:10 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
"personal preferences in aesthetic matters"

Not hardly. These are the worship traditions of the Catholic Church.
145 posted on 02/20/2004 9:40:46 AM PST by rogator
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Film ping
146 posted on 02/20/2004 9:41:03 AM PST by redgolum
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To: AgThorn
Love that Mel Gibson puts his money where his heart and soul lay.

Impressive.

And perhaps today's PC horrors, that many churchs have glommed onto, been sucked in by, etc, are something Mel, like myself, refuses to support.

I left the Methodist Church after many years because of their membership in the pathetic and corrupt National Council of Churches. When you give to the Methodist Church, you give to this organization.

Perhaps Mel was fed up with homosexual, predatory priests using the Catholic Church as a hiding place. Perhaps he doesn't like the dropping of traditions once held so dearly in the Roman Catholic Church. Perhaps his faith is so deep, his yearning for strict adherance to moral codes and behavior, traditional worship services, etc., that he decided to break out and bring this yearning into a fruition that he can share with like minded Christains and his children.

God Bless Mel.

147 posted on 02/20/2004 9:41:53 AM PST by Republic
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To: valkyrieanne
It depends on who you ask. I believe he is.
148 posted on 02/20/2004 9:42:42 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: HitmanNY
I am aware of that, but it's still unfair to say the teachings are 'universally accepted.'

It is clear from context that the statement means "universally accepted by Roman Catholics" (true by definition of any Vatican pronouncement of Catholic doctrine).

The author was a bit sloppy, I agree.

149 posted on 02/20/2004 9:43:17 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Campion
The religion of Catholics -- real Catholics, not the Mel Gibson DIY kind, but the kind in union with the Pope of Rome, is singled out for some of the most venomous attacks imaginable on practically every FR thread dealing with religion almost every day....Maybe you should start by opposing that little FR tradition.

You assume I don't?

My purpose in posting this article, as noted in my comments, was that a contributor to FOX news, someone who is supposed to be part of the "fair and balanced" coverage, was allowed to call someone's religion in a negative light. I can't picture, for example, someone at FOX (or any other "major" news organization) being allowed to refer to any other religion (Islam, Judaism, or even branches thereof) as "fringe" or "antiquated."

My intent was to spark discussion about the content of news coverage, not the content of individual freepers.

150 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:40 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: dixiepatriot
I don't think he's denying that the Holocaust took place. He just questions some of the numbers and events that are accepted as gospel.

Oh, puh-leeze. This is an evasion-by-parsing that would make Bill Clinton blush.

151 posted on 02/20/2004 9:47:04 AM PST by steve-b
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To: CobaltBlue
Nobody would even care what he says except that it's a way of making his son look bad.

Frankly, what makes his son look bad is his own inability (or disinclination) to stand up on his hind legs and object to the old man's noxious garbage.

152 posted on 02/20/2004 9:48:44 AM PST by steve-b
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To: OldFriend
Never mind that his father only days ago.....

Yeah, yeah, yeah... We've heard it all before...

I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with anything my father says or does.
Apparently, many people feel the same about thier fathers as I do.

153 posted on 02/20/2004 9:49:22 AM PST by It's me
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To: rogator
If you want to believe that God prefers the mass in Latin, that's your prerogative.
154 posted on 02/20/2004 9:50:17 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: sinkspur
Gibson's chapel has 70 members and attendance is by invitation only.
That's an "exclusive" church.

Gee, if I had a chapel in my back yard, I wouldn't want "lookie loos" either.
You know people would only come to see Mel. Leave him practice his faith in peace, for goodness sake. Who cares! He's not hurting anyone, is he??

155 posted on 02/20/2004 9:53:11 AM PST by It's me
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To: sinkspur
No one in the Catholic Church is empowered to build his own chapels...

I don't think that's entirely true. People have built chapels on their own property for years! The wealthy have done this for years. Look in Europe.

How about Catholic colleges? They are not neccessarily churces of the diocese but they are "legal."

156 posted on 02/20/2004 9:57:11 AM PST by It's me
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To: steve-b
"Frankly, what makes his son look bad is his own inability (or disinclination) to stand up on his hind legs and object to the old man's noxious garbage."

Any time we attempt to judge another person's motives, we are walking on very thin ice.

Having said that, here's a potential alternative motive to Mel's refusal to publically 'object' in a strong fashion to his father's comments.

Perhaps Mel views God's commandment to honor your parents as more important than meeting the public's expectations about what he should or should not do.

157 posted on 02/20/2004 9:59:48 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: steve-b
I don't know about you, but I feel no need to go around publicly denouncing my own father when he says things I disagree with.
158 posted on 02/20/2004 10:01:18 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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I wonder who the priest(s) is(are) who is saying the Masses at Gibson's church?
159 posted on 02/20/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by It's me
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To: It's me
Although Latin is the official language of the Roman Catholic Church, it is prohibited to say Mass in Latin in our Archdiocese!
160 posted on 02/20/2004 10:03:31 AM PST by leprechaun9 (Beware of little expenses because a small leak will sink a great ship!)
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