OSAMA BEN LADEN WITHIN 35 DAYS! Highlights from Kim C 12 JAN 04 [FINALLY A GOOD TEST CASE]

TRUMPET WIND MINISTRIES PROPHETIC EMAIL LIST ^ | 12 JANUARY 2004 | KIM CLEMENT transcribed by Bonnie Franklin

[Quix]

[QUIX NOTE: The WOTerror impacts us all and there are many perspectives on it. The perspectives of various Pentecostal, Charismatic Christians ought to have their share of the conservative public square. After all, in the USA, we account for ~336 million plus See comments section. We are a potent force in behalf of George W Bush.

Kim Clement may be assailed as human in a variety of ways. Nevertheless, he predicted Saddam's capture well in advance. He predicted the economic upturn well in advance. I believe he was one of those who also predicted very well in advance that Saddam was seriously ill as recent reports of cancer confirm.

I post this for those are like-minded to pray in support of God working accordingly. Many people feel that some prophecies ought to be birthed into reality through agreeing prayer.

I post it as an experiment to see what happens--out in full public view.

And, I post it, in part, because it is long overdue for 336 million USA CONSERVATIVE BELIEVERS to have some slight improvement in their perspective getting some fitting air time in a conservative public square.

Sincerely, Quix]

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I really appreciate Bonnie Franklin for transcribing this, as I only got the last part of it watching TBN (Christian television - www.tbn.org) last night. Kim's gift has noticably increased in accuracy and I think the Lord will allow even more accuarate words as we mature in our Spiritual understanding on how prophecy is supposed to work (in a Body of Christ team effort).

If I could say anything else here quickly on prophetic development, I would exhort to make note of what you do "prophesy" and not take idly your "predictions." What might be experimental to you may be taken as the word of God for those who do not know how to "test the spirits" and the words yet. We need supportive accountability to get it right.

When you miss it, and most prophets do at times, own up to it and pray about it for the grace of God for all concerned. There is strong judgment for prophetic abuse in the Bible, especially if used for manipulations or self-glory. The prophetic is called to build the Body and help lay its foundation. Not every prophet's ministry is identical either. We don't use the wrong to make the right, even if God does provide through our mistakes. (Romans 8:28 and Calvary)

The more we get it right, the more we will like each other in the Body of Christ (because remember, the foundation is Love), and the more we will reflect the true glory of His Spirit - something that will startle the world one day! We, under God's instructions, are building a Temple of living stones that will house God; and it is still under construction, but it will be awesome! God can make a good prophet "miss it" if we get into idol worship over it. He is the final Judge.

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Highlights from ministry of Kim Clement on TBN 01/12/04 OSAMA BEN LADEN WITHIN 35 DAYS!

Talk about stepping out, in Utica, NY, for those of you who don't know anything about my ministry, the Lord has given me very, very clear words about political things that have come to pass, very clear. We've had the Secret Service visit me a number of times and investigate because of these prophecies. They are more interested and they have interpretations for this that I and the church didn't even think about.

…Osama Ben Laden said that in 35 days, America, he was prophesying, predicting, that this country would be abolished basically, wiped out, because he has a plan for 35 days. And the word of the Lord came to me... the spirit of the Lord said to me, “You prophesy that the very thing that he said and predicted for this nation, tell him, prophesy, that that is reversed, and I'm going to bring him out in 35 days!”

And then he said this – the Spirit of the Lord said, “There is a resurrection day coming over this Easter. This will be, the Easter that is coming now will be one of the greatest Easters this nation has ever celebrated. Why? Because there will be a resurrection of the dead, speaking spiritually of revelation that has died, of prophetic words that have died and been buried in the ground.” “This Easter,” says the Spirit of the Lord, “Not only will I bring your greatest enemy out, but I will also bring about a severe judgment against the powers and the principalities that have come against my servants, against my people. There shall be a judgment,” says the Lord.

CURES WILL BE DISCOVERED FOR DISEASES

Alzheimer’s has come against too many of God's people… The word of the Lord, the prophetic word of the Lord is coming to you tonight. Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, a rare bone disease and lung, God says, these five things will suddenly come to the surface with incredible discoveries and it will begin this year… God is going to bring it to pass because of your prayers... We declare it is done, in the Name of Jesus…

If you are believing with me right now for your family, I don't care whether it is some disease in their body or whether it is some deliverance that they need, whatever it is God's Spirit is present right now to free them from it. Yesterday is over. Are you with me? I declare the word of the Lord to everyone who is listening to me right now... I release creative truth on them right now. Whoever's listening, whoever's watching right now by television, Lord, I pray that you release them from that thing as well - the forces of death that want to take them out. It's time to live. It's time to enjoy the kingdom of God, therefore, live, live, live in the name of Christ.

A PRAYING PRESIDENT FOR ANOTHER TERM:

There's an invasion into the Kingdoms of darkness... He's giving us access into the political powers. Look at President Bush; he prays. We needed a praying president, and we needed a praying president for another term, and there will be another praying president for another term… All over the world, God is sending his young people to invade the kingdoms of darkness and the kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdom of our God and his Christ.

IT’S FOR OUR GENERATION

God says, “There have been prophetic words that have been spoken out that have been buried that have not come to pass,” and God says, “This generation that you think are dying, they are going to fall on the prophetic promises that have (been) buried and your children literally will be raised up as children that have life and children that will bring the word of the Lord,” in the name of Jesus we prophesy that.

… All of these things that have been prophesied, not just by me, but by many, many great men of God, and those that have even died that were in the 40's that prophesied and predicted the things that have not come to pass, it's for our generation. It's for our time, people - masses coming in, a great harvest…

When I came into the city (of Miami) I got so thirsty and I thought maybe because it's I've been flying... I was so thirsty. Even when I came in here I was so thirsty - unusually thirsty - and God said, "It's what's happening in Florida specifically. There's a tremendous thirst for something fresh and something new, and it's going through out America. The only way we're going to get big churches, if you want a big church, the only way it's going to happen is if there's a hunger in the hearts of people.

THE MONTH OF MARCH

On March the 11th and the month of March has been set aside by God for the Church in the United States of America for something unbelievably wonderful to happen - so powerful… God just said to me, there's going to be one unusual event .. almost like a renting of something, a curtain, a veil for the church. So pastors and leaders... watch the month of March. It's going to be one of the most fabulous anointings that's going to be released, and what you've struggled to get... whatever it is, it's going to be released like that just in one second. It's payback time.

PRAYER BY KIM

"Father, I pray for every man or woman, every person watching right now. You have the ability to change it by God's word. I release you from your present bondage. I command you to see what God is allowing you to see and I free you this very minute from the bondages that the enemy is bringing against you, so that you'll enter this year to your promise and into the Kingdom, in the Name of Jesus."

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We encourage you to support Kim with your prayers and gifts of love. Intercessors, may you pray the prayer of agreement over the prophetic words he has spoken.

KIM CLEMENT MINISTRIES http://www.kimclement.com

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Lord, may we as a people, as your intercessors here in America come into agreement with what you have spoken from the mouth of your prophets. Lord God, we stand in agreement with them, praying the prayer of agreement that your will be done in our lives, in the life of this nation, and even in the lives of our enemies.

We thank you, God that even now you are stationing your angels of war to bring this to pass. We thank you, we thank you, we thank you for your angels whom are guarding over our land. We thank you for your protection, for hovering over your people. May your streams of healing flow once again like mighty rivers from your throne into our lives, into our hearts, into our homes, our churches, the very streets we walk upon. Come, Lord Jesus come. We invite you, Lord. We welcome your ministry and your ministering angels into our midst. Thank you, Father. May it be so.

In Him, Bonnie Franklin Prophetic Roundtable Ministries http://www.propheticroundtable.org

[Quix]

Evidently well earned.

Those sharp tongues are merciless.


BTW, with your objectivity, can you see what I'm talking about in terms of how various religious sources and perspectives of political, WOT, Iraq war etc. are posted on FR and remain in the News section . . . .

while HORRORS, anytying near my realm of reality gets knee jerk shuffled off to the religion section?

[opus86]

Hey Quix - hope you're doing well. How's your friend in China?

Having been raised in classic Pentecostalism I have seen my share of "prophets", both false and accurate. I am a bit wary of Mr. Clement, mainly because he's on Christian TV and I have a bit of a bias against some of those folks. (But then I'm wary of anyone who's considered a modern-day prophet.) To be fair, I've not followed him. I do hope he's correct on this one.

BTW, what OT prophets were not stoned after being inaccurate? Just wondering.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Well, I think it's probably because prophesy isn't considered a newsworthy venue of information. I mean, consider my mother-in-law - clueless. Now, OTOH, if you were a 'prophet' of Islam and spewed death and hatred for America, the international press would immediately harken to the puddle of vomit. Of course, we've come to expect something more than just words from these lunatics, too.

[MineralMan]

"But whoa, let something come from this perspective and the screaming and whining begins and it is virtually instantly shuffled off to the religion section.

I consider that discrimmination illogical, unkind, unfair and generally cheeky.
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Hmm, Prophecy is a bit different from news, you see. Lots of religious leaders comment on the news of the day, and their comments are legitimate news stories.

Prophecy is another matter, especially when followed by a lengthy diatribe about how big the evangelical movement has become, complete with numerous footnotes, etc.

I'm sure we could also find some psychics who have predicted when OBL would be captured. Their comments, while interesting, are just speculation, not news.

Now, if this prophecy ends up being true, then you'll have some news to report. Until then, I guess it's off to chat for such postings.

[AlguyA]

"After all, in the USA, we account for ~336 million plus See comments section."

Uh, there are only about 300 million people in the US -TOTAL! It's kind of hard to buy the prophecy of people trying to read the future when they can't even read an almanac.

[Quix]

Quite understandable. Have a lot of similar feelings.

I haven't been able to find my references on the OT prophets. I believe Jonah was one. I think the other one I was thinking of was Isaiah, Jeremiah, Elijah or Elisha. I don't think it was Ezekiel or Daniel.

Doubt I'll get it pinned down more than that any time soon. I keep my eyes out for coming across that source again but I haven't recently. I even asked Pam Clark and she remembered the document but couldn't get more specific than that either. I think it was in the preface or first chapter of one of Rick Joyner's books. Anyway--when I find it, I'll certainly post it!

It's really in the OT. Whoever was citing the examples was accurate.

[Quix]

I understand that.

But all kinds of papal announcements get mentioned and discussed ad nauseum.

All kinds of Episcopal Bishop stuff gets discussed endlessly.

etc.

But a rare occasional peep of this sort and the reaction is akin to a volcano. Even as a shrink or sociologist--it seems exceedingly out of proportion.

[Quix]

A lot of the other religious postings and discussions regarding the WOT and a LOT of other SORT OF news worthy issues which remain in news are a LOT LESS newsworthy, even a lot less interesting than this post.

It still seems very arbitrary, narrow, rigid and for no good logical reason.

[Quix]

DUH.

Good thing I don't teach math!

33,600,000 is the result of 12% of 280,000,000.

Sheesh.

Ran out of toes and fingers.

Sorry.

THANKS FOR CATCHING THAT.

I think my mind was focused much more on other aspects and clearly mindless on that math stuff. Common with me.

Sorry.

[Quix]

CORRECTIONS:

Note math correction in post #29

Also,

I got a FREEPMAIL which I may be allowed to post which reasonably called me to task about appearing to speak for all of Charismania.

I didn't mean to appear to do that. I meant that more or less any honorable FR person ought to have a right to express something from that perspective. That the people of that perspective had a right to their fair share of the public FR square.

I meant that it seems to me that it's long past overdue for those of us of this set of beliefs to have a more reasonable, more fair-minded, easier time to get any reasonable views expressed from such a perspective to be discussed fair-mindedly in the FR public square.

[Ff--150]

Quix, is Kim Clement the worship leader with long hair, from Texas??

[Quix]

Probably so.

I'll get a pic from his site.

[MineralMan]

"I got a FREEPMAIL which I may be allowed to post which reasonably called me to task about appearing to speak for all of Charismania.
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Charismania? Are you sure you want to use that word to describe yourself and your fellows? Do a Google search for the word. You'll quickly discover that it doesn't have a nice definition. You'll also discover several books that propose to cure you of charismania.

There's nothing wrong with the charismatic movement. It's one more splinter group of Christianity. When you combine it with "mania" though, it starts sounding a little wierd.

You might consider another word to use in descriptions of yourself. I certainly would.

[Ff--150]

Don't bother, but that long-haired worship leader IS listening to Somebody...=-)

[Quix]

The following from:

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Inspired Present

Kim appears weekly on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) as the host of his own show The Prophet. His appearances on TBN and other television networks reach millions worldwide.

Kim has developed a DVD series on the role of the prophet in present-day Christianity. The production, Conversation with a Friend, will include Kim speaking from a personal relationship with Christ, the role of music and inspiration in his ministry and life, and Kim’s belief in the “invincible necessity” of each individual’s destiny.

Kim has performed and will continue to share his inspired messages in venues like the Rose Bowl Stadium in Pasadena, California, The House of Blues in Hollywood, California, and other public venues including schools, colleges, and prisons.

To learn more about Kim’s appearance schedule, or to invite Kim as a guest speaker/performer, please log onto

HERE: www.kimclement.com.

Notable Retrospective

In 1974, Kim completed his first major motion picture film score for A Winters Tale, a Sheppard/Farmer film of Australia.

In 1996, Kim performed at Washington for Jesus on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, where over 200,000 people were gathered.

Kim has received various invitations to open sessions of The House of Representatives as the guest minister in Washington D.C.

In 1992, Kim wrote The Sound of His Voice, a biographical book of his life and the phenomenon of the prophet.

Kim has produced scores of live performance audiotapes, CDs, and DVDs documenting his moments of musical worship and prophetic communion.

In 1993, Kim received an Honorary Citizen Award from the Mayor of Houston, Texas, and a Recognition Award for continued ministry in the city. In 1995, Kim also received an Honorary Doctorate of Divinity.

Since 1995, Kim has traveled to Detroit, Michigan on a monthly basis to help establish The Warriors of the New Millennium for those who have been wounded by present day religion and its trappings.

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Even as there shall be record breaking degrees once again and there shall be record breakings in winter. There shall be a breaking of a record in a very unusual place in the United States of America. They shall say "this has never happened." It’s as if snow has fallen to the ground in a place that it has never fallen. And God said, Let this be a sign unto you, that this which I have prophesied and that which I have spoken shall come to pass, says the Lord..." Kim Clement October 3, 2003

FROM:

HERE: http://www.kimclement.com/words/November2003/Unusualweather.htm

Note: Although this storm was quite significant, it has proven to be only the beginning of a winter of record breaking temperatures all over the country and around the world.

After receiving e-mails and telephone calls from some of the residents of California that had either heard or read this word before the strange weather struck, we found these reports about this very significant storm that hit South L.A. this past week. The following articles were released by various news sources reporting the storm.

In searching the meaning of the word that Kim had given, we found the grammatical use of "as if" indicates it would be like snow that has fallen in a place it never has, but but not necessarily be snow. "As if" means similar to, but not actually being. This storm actually dropped 18 inches of hail, in some areas creating the appearance of what some have called "a winter wonderland." You will also see the other comparisons, such as how the children play and throw snow/hail balls in these reports. The Bible also uses the phrase "as if" a number of times to make comparisons between subjects.

Although it also speaks of more record breakings in the winter, we found 9 record breaking temperatures were already being reported in South Africa. See articles below. The news speaks for itself. The Lord said that this would be a sign to the church and to the USA that He would fulfill his words spoken and His promises about the breakthrough. (ATS- Prophetic Image Expressions)

Some Play, Others Clean Up After Freak Storm Hail blankets South L.A. in a wintry carpet of white. But many face flood damage and cope with outages.

Winter Wonderland in South L.A.
Storms' Combination Punch Staggers Parts of Southland
November 13, 2003
Times Headlines

By Ann M. Simmons, Times Staff Writer
Residents of several South Los Angeles neighborhoods awoke Thursday to frontyards piled high with ice, and to carpet and furniture drenched by floodwaters, the result of a freak and vicious thunderstorm Wednesday that left a trail of damage, disbelief and excitement.

Adults joined children to build ice castles and pelt one another with snowballs while marveling at the wintry spectacle most had never seen before. Others were left to deal with power outages, soggy floors and wet upholstery.

People from other parts of the city drove to South Los Angeles to view the remarkable sight in a region where rainfall is moderate and damaging hailstones are a rarity. Especially hard hit were Watts, Compton, Lynwood and South Gate, which were drenched with more than 5 inches of rain.

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Sheets of ice blanketed grass along parts of Imperial Highway in Watts. On side streets, frozen crystals were heaped on yards and pavements and enveloped parked cars. But one or two blocks over, streets were clear.

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Workers from the city Department of Public Works used skip loaders, normally used to remove mud and trash, to shovel the ice into one huge knoll in the center of Belhaven Street."We don't know how long it's going to take to clean up because we've never seen anything like it," said one city worker, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

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"It's just something you want to get on film, to document this stuff. We may never see this again, for another 100 years," Agee said.

But it was not all fun. By 5 p.m. Thursday, about 6,000 homes remained without electricity, which had been knocked out in many neighborhoods about 7 p.m. Wednesday.

ABOVE ARE EXCERPTS

I'll try and get the predictions fulfilled about Saddam, the economy and Bush and post below if I can do it quickly. Have homework for teaching to do, too.

[Quix]

Many Chinese friends seem to be doing well enough.

Thanks for asking.

[Quix]

You're probably quite right and worthy listening to on that score.

I just think that Charismatics of all people ought to be inclined to demonstrate some amount of significant humility.

mania is as likely a label as a lot of others.

Who was it--the Episcopalian in Seattle who was in on the ground floor . . . said that everyone who was "Filled with The Spirit" ought to be locked up for 6 months first to give them time to integrate it sensibly into their lives and to learn to speak intelligently, wisely about such.

[Quix]

For me, his accuracy--growing accuracy to my impression--is enough of a clue to pay attention.

But FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO ME is how HE WORSHIPS GOD ALMIGHTY; THE LORD JESUS, THE CHRIST OF NAZARETH, BETHLEHEM, CALVARY, THE TOMB AND THE ASCENSION.

I love to watch and listen to him worship though I don't always enjoy every style of song he writes.

He clearly LOVES GOD with all his being. God seems to really enjoy that.

I admire it tons.

Throw rocks if you wish. I wouldn't encourage it toward someone THAT IN LOVE WITH GOD ALMIGHTY.

God can get very jealous in behalf of such people.

[siunevada]

Among the footnotes, I found this to be an odd statement:

Pentecostals differ from Evangelicals and Fundamentalists in approach to the Bible. For Pentecostals the Bible is a living book in which the Holy Spirit is always active.

Don't most Christians experience the Bible as an actual manifestation of God?

I mean, for goodness sakes, even those hierarchical fuddy-duddies that have been hanging around for almost 2000 years have this to say on the subject:

the Christian faith is not a "religion of the book." Christianity is the religion of the "Word" of God, a word which is "not a written and mute word, but the Word which is incarnate and living." If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."

Don't most Christians believe that there is a real interaction with God when they are reading the Bible? It hardly seems unique to Penetcostals.

[Quix]

HMMMMM MAYOR RUDY AND LARRY KING???! Interesting.

Also, some other predictions which came true.

From:

http://www.kimclement.com/FromKim.htm

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This past year, God used me to speak many things prophetically.

CHANGE IN ABORTION LAWS (February 26th, 2003)-
“Though the battlefield waits hungry for blood, it shall not be satisfied. Though demonic powers cry out once again “give us more blood,” the only blood that they have received is the blood of the unborn within this Nation. They cry out for more. “Give us more blood.” It shall not come from the battlefield of war but from the battlefield of abortion, but this also shall come to an end rapidly. God says things shall change; after 7 months the laws will change in this Nation.”


CHANGE IN THE ECONOMY (February 26th, 2003) “For the economy of this Nation will change in 7 months. And the people will rejoice greatly.”
VICTORY FOR THE USA (February 26th, 2003) “There will be a sacrifice, for sacrifice is necessary. Even though some will sacrifice themselves and their lives, I have already determined that this Nation will rise above the storms, and that this Nation shall be lead into righteousness. Your enemies are about to become your footstool.” “May it be recorded tonight that one prophet in America prophesied God and His Son and His Victory into this battlefield. America, be strong, but also be free.”


21 DAYS TO BAGHDAD (February 27th 2003) “The prince of Persia and the principalities of Persia have once again stood up and said, “we will not allow you entrance into our territory.” But God says because of the prayers of the saints of the Most High God, I will surely stop its voice once again. And it shall take less than 21 days this time.” (This prophetic word was not only fulfilled, but was even confirmed by National news sources such as Time Magazine and National Geographic.)


VINDICATION FOR BUSH (September 2nd, 2003) “In the month of October I will bring your president to a place of vindication because of what I’m going to do and how I’m going to reveal it. America has been set-aside for the month of October for Divine Vindication. Even the economy shall be raised up and there shall be a break-through financially.” (October 31, 2003- Fox News reports “Bush Vindicated by Economic Recovery”)


RECORD BREAKINGS (October 3rd, 2003) - "Even as there shall be record breaking degrees once again and there shall be record breakings in winter. There shall be a breaking of a record in a very unusual place in the United States of America. They shall say, "This has never happened." It’s as if snow has fallen to the ground in a place that it has never fallen. And God said, Let this be a sign unto you, that this which I have prophesied, and that which I have spoken shall come to pass." (National News agencies are already reporting record-breaking degrees in many places.)


This year, God allowed me the privilege of privately ministering to Mayor Rudy Giuliani. I also ministered to Larry King as we had dinner to discuss my role as a prophet in the world and the distinct differences between my prophetic office and the psychic’s gift. An interview has been guaranteed for 2004. I was honored to minister to Mel Gibson with a personal word and many other men and women in the USA and abroad.