[Fury]

Having the scriptures and the ability to read them, and given you're supposed to have the mind of christ and the holy spirit that you can understand scripture, if you fail and stand before God, you are the one being judged, not the false teacher.

Indeed. For your reference, please consider what one person stated on two different occasions on what it takes becoming a Christian.

Statement #1

"The first step in becoming Christian is to Repent - or admit to the sin in your life and vow to turn from it. The second step is to confess Christ as savior, and that is followed by learning Scripture and Following Christ."

see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1023239/posts?page=111#111

so the above is:

1) Repent
2) Confess
3) Learning Scripture and following Christ

Statement #2:

"That's two shot down specifically. The sacraments generally pervert scripture as much in what they cause as in what they get wrong. There is no ritual that I'm aware of mentioned in the entire New testament that is required to be a Christian. There are actions that are required. They are three - You must 1) believe with your heart and confess with your mouth to be born again (Paul specifically states this). 2) Per Jesus in Mark 16:15-18 you must be born again (saved - as paul said) and baptized in the Holy spirit. 3) John 10 and Romans 8 you must follow Christ in the Holy Spirit."

see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/992292/posts?page=253#253

which is:

1) Believe, Confess

2) Born again and baptized in the Holy Spirit

3) Follow Christ in the Holy Spirit.

Given that one has the mind of Christ and the Holy Spirit so that one can understand Scripture, and given that Christ and the Holy Spirit cannot err, makes 'ya wonder why the statements do not mesh - they don't agree. They do not have to be worded exactly the same to mean the same things. The above don't even mean the same things.

The requirements for becoming a Christian are clear - but not from the messages above.

[dangus]

>>The sacraments generally pervert scripture as much in what they cause as in what they get wrong. There is no ritual that I'm aware of mentioned in the entire New testament that is required to be a Christian.>>

Because you deny the very Words of Christ, himself!
"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed [it], and brake [it], and gave [it] to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave [it] to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins..."
"...Unless you eat of my body and drink of my blood, you shall have no life within you."

Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he speaks!

[Havoc]

Ah, yes, I remember you. The wee little one that kept nipping at the heals and could not be made to behave. Have we changed? Doesn't appear to be the case.. All the things in both statements are required.

You'll note the difference between becoming a christian and remaining one and that thusly the context from which you ripped these things to present an appearance of something wrong... Any more slander you wish to engage in whilest you're at it?