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California Recall Live Thread

Posted on 10/07/2003 5:34:25 AM PDT by Sabertooth



Do it California. Post here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: adiosdavis; bewaredemvotefraud; ccrm; militaryvote; presstitutes
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641 posted on 10/07/2003 12:08:48 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.)
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To: HardStarboard
You make great points.

I went to the no on 53 website. Their position is that there will be less money for education (which already gets 40% of the state budget by mandate) and healthcare.

I tend to agree with you. Oh well.

Either way, I think this proposition will pass. When voters see propositions that require spending, they usually vote for it.
643 posted on 10/07/2003 12:09:34 PM PDT by Weimdog
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To: goldstategop
No it is not. It is a vote to recall Davis, and a vote for McClintok. You at least get yes on recall so grow up.
644 posted on 10/07/2003 12:09:56 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: sandyeggo
"...I think the recall question should have had its own page."

Yep, Page 1, just like if you have a stack of punch cards, then you turn the page to vote for the candidates.
645 posted on 10/07/2003 12:10:51 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: BohDaThone
The law says "majority of voters." What you are saying is that a person who punches neither "yes" nor "no" is not a voter for the purpose of deciding the recall question. I'm fine with that (prefer it in fact), but other than your comment, haven't seen a definitive statement as to how this question on the ballot will be counted.

The law says "majority of voters," and a person can, with a straight face, say the 101,000 people who punched neither "yes" nor "no" is a voter.

646 posted on 10/07/2003 12:10:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yes
Arnold
No
Yes

Nothing dimpled, hanging or pregnant.
647 posted on 10/07/2003 12:11:11 PM PDT by bootyist-monk (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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To: GOPrincess; All
I just saw Aslee Banfield, or whatever her name is, interviewing Bustamente. She all but insisted that the absentee ballots be challenged because those folks voted before the LA Times dropped its stink bomb.
648 posted on 10/07/2003 12:11:23 PM PDT by per loin
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To: sandyeggo
I am trying to understand this correctly. Assume there are 100 voters who vote on Question 2. However, 49 vote for the recall, 48 vote no, and 3 don't vote at all.

In this scenario, a majority of people who voted on the question voted for the recall, but a majority of people who voted didn't. Does the recall pass or not?

649 posted on 10/07/2003 12:11:41 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: sandyeggo; norton; Weimdog; Drago
Their ads also cite Bustamente as a supporter of 53, that was all I needed to vote NO

At the big recall debate in Sacramento, both Schwarzenegger and McClintock also were in favor of #53. An interesting stat that came out during the debate... under Pat Brown and Ronald Reagan, infrastructure spending was at 20% of budget. Now it's 1% or less. #53 puts it at 3%.

Infrastructure is one of the legitimate functions of state government, but the politicians play games by starving the legitimate functions in favor of social services. Why do you think we're always voting on bonds for police, fire, schools, and roads?

Because bonds for social handouts would always fail.


650 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:01 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Lady Heron
I was at Starbucks this morning, and all of the baristas had voted...a couple voted for some of the lesser known candidates, but YES on recall.

It will be a record turnout
651 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Lady Heron
Sorry but I voted for Arnold. Hey, I like to hear the lamentations of liberals! ;-)
652 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:29 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sabertooth
When will the exit polls start coming in? Anybody heard anything yet?? On pins and needles out here in Ca.
653 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:29 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: per loin
"She all but insisted that the absentee ballots be challenged because those folks voted before the LA Times dropped its stink bomb."

Good grief.
654 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:38 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Bush_Democrat
That the gist of my question. How are non-votes to the Yes/No question handled. Is the contest just between Yes chads and No chads, or is the contest between Yes chads and every other ballot?
655 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: sissyjane
Seems like the last couple of elections, Drudge started to leak the first exit polls around 2-3:00...
656 posted on 10/07/2003 12:13:27 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: dogbyte12
In your scenario, I believe it does. For the recall to pass, it needs 50%+1 of those who cast a ballot on the question
657 posted on 10/07/2003 12:13:43 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty (I know why the watermelon's there)
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To: Sabertooth; Weimdog
Should have stayed with my first impression then, that #53 sounded ok. Good thing I didn't vote against it :-)
658 posted on 10/07/2003 12:14:05 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: All
Funny how the shenanigans of one state can capture attention of a whole country. To bad it didn't happen in Texas with the runaway democrats.
659 posted on 10/07/2003 12:14:08 PM PDT by IronKros (married to a foreigner)
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To: Cboldt
Now we just need to find out who can answer that. Sean Hannity is on now, I wonder if his staffers can research it and get back to us. Anyone have the back-channels to get this to Sean?
660 posted on 10/07/2003 12:14:20 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Now EX-democrat!!)
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