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California: Arnold Fesses Up and People Are Mad -- at the Messenger
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 3, 2003 | Steve Lopez

Posted on 10/03/2003 6:57:13 AM PDT by John Jorsett

SAN DIEGO — Reports of Arnold Schwarzenegger's sexual mistreatment and humiliation of women drew outrage here Thursday on the campaign trail.

Outrage at the Los Angeles Times, not at Arnold.

I would have thought that at a gathering of conservatives, who rightly vilified President Bill Clinton for his raunchy scandal and nationally televised lies, there'd at least be some finger-wagging at Arnold.

Not a chance with the Teflon Terminator.

In San Diego, one Arnold supporter after another bashed The Times, and the beating continued at a second appearance in Costa Mesa, where hundreds of Arnold supporters roundly booed the mere mention of the paper.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; groper; latimes; recall; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 10/03/2003 6:57:14 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Bret Hume on Fox News last evening brought up the fact that the Clinton debacle was found on page 13 of the LA Times...but the allegations against Arnold were on page 1.....kind of hard for the liberals to defend the statement that there is no bias in the media....
2 posted on 10/03/2003 6:58:47 AM PDT by smiley
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To: John Jorsett
The avalanche of last minute smears stink to high heaven and are close to reaching critical mass where there is a backlash. We are close to getting another Paul Wellstone Pep Rally(funeral) backlash.
3 posted on 10/03/2003 6:59:00 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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4 posted on 10/03/2003 6:59:52 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: smiley
Paging Eric Alterman, paging Eric Alterman....even Susan Estrich thinks this is depicable....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/994337/posts
A Deplorable October Surprise (Susan Estrich re: LA Times)
5 posted on 10/03/2003 6:59:59 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: John Jorsett
I'd like to read the whole article, but I WILL NOT register on their site. No way-No how.
6 posted on 10/03/2003 7:00:15 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: John Jorsett
I would have thought that at a gathering of conservatives, .....

Stupid L.A. Times. Arnold's groupies are not conservatives. They're a bunch of Liberals like....well....like Bill Clinton groupies.

But, if this isn't proof that the Times's main goal is to do harm to conservatives then nothing is.

7 posted on 10/03/2003 7:01:49 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: John Jorsett
http://www.polipundit.com/2003_09_28_polipundit_archive.html#106518198551676238

Friday, October 03, 2003
Sleazy LAT

The LAT defends itself in a sleazy editorial:
Blaming the media and charging opponents with running a dirty campaign are time-honored tactics for deflecting unwelcome scrutiny. And what better way to keep a would-be scandal from escalating than to issue a blanket apology — after his spokesman's blanket denial.
And what better way for a newspaper to abuse its readership with biased reporting, biased editorials and biased polling than to release a carefully scheduled hit piece five days before an election.
posted by PoliPundit at 4:53 AM Link to this post


Estrich On The Times

Honorable liberal Susan Estrich on the LAT's carefully scheduled hit piece:
But none of these women, as The Times emphasizes, ever came forward to complain. The newspaper went looking for them, and then waited until five days before the election to tell the fragments of the story.

What this story accomplishes is less an attack on Schwarzenegger than a smear on the press. It reaffirms everything that's wrong with the political process. Anonymous charges from years ago made in the closing days of a campaign undermine fair politics.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/commentary.html#10_03_03_0758

Friday, October 3 2003
RECALL MANIA: We felt Gray Davis had a small chance (very small) to survive the recall if he could get his "No-on-Recall" numbers up to 45% in our RCP average prior to election day. However, only one poll has shown his numbers above 45% during the entire race (LA Times, 9/6-10) and the most recent batch of polls, inducing the Times', show Davis's numbers slipping badly. Our RCP average has the recall currently favored to pass 59-38 and at that level, with less than five days to go, Davis is all but finished.

Bustamante's only hope was for a post-debate surge by McClintock to siphon just enough conservative votes away from Arnold to give the him a shot at winning on Question 2. It's not going to happen. Arnold leads Bustamante by more than 12 points in our RCP average, and that's with McClintock polling at 16%. Given that we expect Arnold's final numbers on election night to be better than our RCP average, Bustamante should start looking for a new job.

Clearly, since last week's debate this race has broken Arnold's way. At the beginning of the week it looked as if Arnold might well outpoll Davis's recall total and even had a slight chance of reaching 50%. We'll have to wait and see if the recent stink bombs dropped by the LA Times and ABC News do anything to slow his momentum. Even if these late hits do take a toll on Arnold, odds are this will mean Schwarzenegger still wins, but in a much closer race. And there's a very real possibility - especiall when you see pieces like this (and kudos to the LA Times for publishing it) - that the media's last-minute dumping on Arnold will backfire with voters.

While there have been many twists and turns these last two months, the reality is Schwarzenegger became the heavy favorite against Bustamante as soon as he announced on Jay Leno. Overall, Arnold has run a darn good campaign and done nothing to diminish his chances. Bustamante, on the other hand, has run the pathetic campaign we anticipated from him, and whatever momentum Davis may have had was blown out of the water by the 9th Circuit's political interference with the election. Californians should get ready for Governor Schwarzenegger. - J. McIntyre & T. Bevan 7:58 am

Thursday, October 2 2003
IS THIS WHAT THEY MEAN BY LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS?: Somebody get Eric Alterman on the phone or pull one of his books out of the remainder bin. This morning the LA Times performs the slimiest, most overt political hatchet job on Arnold Schwarzenegger you can imagine.

We knew the dirt was coming. What we didn't know is that instead of just publishing some sleazy tidbit passed along by a Dem operative, the LA Times would actually go out and dig up the political dirt themselves, source it anonymously and drop it on the Thursday before the election.

If there was any doubt left that the LA Times was a liberally biased, ideologically driven "news organization" it should be gone now. Does anyone believe the Times would perform the same knee-capping of a Democrat? In fact, I suspect if the Times had devoted the same amount of energy to investigating Gray Davis's legitimate ethical problems in office there wouldn't even be a recall happening today. It would have happened last November.

Here's the good news. I don't think the ploy is going to work. By the time the polls close and voters have made Arnold Schwarzenegger the new governor of California, this story, along with the reputation of the LA Times, will be lining birdcages all across the state - which is exactly where they both belong.
8 posted on 10/03/2003 7:02:55 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: sissyjane
go to instapundit. They have a link to the article and somehow it bypasses the registration.
http://www.instapundit.com/

this link works too
http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-oe-estrich3oct03.story

9 posted on 10/03/2003 7:04:33 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: smiley
The LA Slimes, and the left in general are Stalinist hemorhoids; "Stalinoids". Nothing is too low for them...
10 posted on 10/03/2003 7:05:15 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sissyjane
"I'd like to read the whole article, but I WILL NOT register on their site. No way-No how."

User name: Annoying

Password: Annoying

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11 posted on 10/03/2003 7:07:02 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: John Jorsett
I've got a new slogan for the LAT:

The LAT. For all the news unfit to print.

12 posted on 10/03/2003 7:07:10 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Texas Eagle
If you believe all the smears, then you would have to believe that Arnold is a storm trooper in disguise. Which, if you believe them, would lead to an interesting conclusion about who is the real conservative in this race.
13 posted on 10/03/2003 7:08:11 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Texas Eagle
There is also the fact that the Clinton scandals were not serious because of sex. They were serious because they involved serious dishonesty and abuse of power.

You can tell Democrats this again and again, but most of them will continue to believe their own propaganda that it was just about seedy sex.

I guess we should be glad that Democrats believe their own propaganda so often. After all, believing that W is an inept moron who just got into Harvard Business School through family connections means they underestimate him to their own detriment.

14 posted on 10/03/2003 7:08:47 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: John Jorsett
I don't like the fact that he "behaved badly." He owned up to it and has apologized. The DemocRATS supported a rapist and man who assaulted a woman in the White House. Now they want us to crumble because Arnold grabbed a few boobs. Sorry, RATS, you lose this time.

PS Arnold, please try to behave yourself.

15 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:00 AM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: KellyAdmirer
If you believe all the smears, then you would have to believe that Arnold is a storm trooper in disguise.

I didn't see anything in the story about Arnold being a storm trooper.

Which, if you believe them, would lead to an interesting conclusion about who is the real conservative in this race.

I have no idea what that sentence means.

16 posted on 10/03/2003 7:14:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: John Jorsett
Same behavior, another place, another time, another party:

Reports of President Clinton's sexual mistreatment and humiliation of women drew outrage here . . . . outrage at Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr, not at President Clinton.

17 posted on 10/03/2003 7:15:34 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
I love how these chicks show up just in the nick of time. Wonder how much they were each paid??
18 posted on 10/03/2003 7:18:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I'm sure the publicity and chance to bring down a Republican is enough compensation.
19 posted on 10/03/2003 7:20:50 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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These girls weren't with Arnold in the White House were they? And he wasn't an elected official was he? Wouldn't be surprised if these were willing gropees.
20 posted on 10/03/2003 7:21:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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