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French royal claimant cannot call himself Bourbon, court rules
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| Thu, Oct 02, 2003
Posted on 10/02/2003 12:05:07 PM PDT by presidio9
Henri d'Orleans, count of Paris and rival pretender to the throne of France, is banned from using the ancient royal name of Bourbon because it was abandoned by his family in the 17th century, France's high court of appeal ruled.
The decision scuppered Orleanist hopes of reclaiming the dynastic title, which will now remain with the senior branch of the royal house -- represented by Louis Alphonse de Bourbon, duke of Anjou and the other contender for the throne.
The Cour de Cassation confirmed a lower court answer to a plea lodged by the 70 year-old count of Paris shortly after he inherited his position in 1999, in which he asked for the right to call himself Henri de Bourbon.
Both courts found that the name had been dropped by Henri's ancestor Philippe d'Orleans, the younger son of King Louis XIII, who was born in 1640. Henri had "no proven legitimate interest in reclaiming possession of the name of Bourbon," the judges said Thursday.
The Orleans and Bourbon families have conducted a bitter and fruitless contest for the right to claim the throne of France ever since the last king -- the Orleanist Louis-Philippe -- lost power in 1848.
While the Orleans line comes through Louis XIII's younger son, the Bourbons pass through the elder -- Louis XIV -- whose descendants ruled till Louis XVI's execution in the revolution. After the restoration Louis XVI's brother Charles X, who reigned from 1824 to 1830, was the last Bourbon king of France.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bourbon; frantz; hapsbergs; huckleberryfinn; lineofsuccession; louisxvi; monarchy; napolean; royalnonesuch; surrendermonkeys
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:05:08 PM PDT
by
presidio9
To: presidio9
Why can't the king use any name he wants?
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:07:07 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: presidio9
If Charles X was the last Bourbon king of France who was the lastScotch king of France? And what about the last Irish, Rye, and Canadian Whisky kings?
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10/02/2003 12:07:57 PM PDT
by
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:08:26 PM PDT
by
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To: presidio9
This is story is true -- I checked with the Duke of au Jus and he confirmed it.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:08:26 PM PDT
by
paulklenk
(DEPORT HILLARY!)
To: presidio9
He should call himself Merovingian, since France is decadent and in utter decline.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:09:18 PM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("We hang petty thieves, we elevate the great ones to public office." Aesop, 600BC)
To: RightWhale
In the 227 years of this country's existence, the only time France has been of any value to us was when they had a monarchy. Left to govern themselves, the French quickly embraced socialism.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:09:18 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Countdown to 27 World Championships...)
To: presidio9
Bush's Fault....i mean, Robespierre's Fault.
To: presidio9
France would have become a monarchy again after its defeat in the Franco-Prussian War had the then pretender been willing to accept the tricolor, but no, he held out for the fluer d' lis, and the Third Republic was born.....
gives you an idea of the leadership abilities of the French royal families.....
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:12:18 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: presidio9
Actually, John Steinbeck wrote a book about this very thing. "The Short Reign of Pippin IV" It's hilarious and timely, and his disdain of French government is delicious!
To: No Truce With Kings
Ay lad, you'd be speaking of the "king over the water" our bonnie Prince Charlie....
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:13:51 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: presidio9
Let him drink cheap Scotch!
To: Democratshavenobrains
Bush's Fault....i mean, Robespierre's Fault. Moreau is "deeply saddened..."
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:16:23 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Countdown to 27 World Championships...)
To: January24th
Ah, a charmiling little book. I remember finding it in a paperback remainder bin back around 1960.... I think I paid a dime (the cover price was $0.25). Very funny. Far better than The Mouse that Roared.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:16:37 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: CatoRenasci
Students of Philosophy will be asking, "So is the present King of France bald, or not?"
;^)
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:21:28 PM PDT
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: presidio9
However, his wife may refer to herself as Southern Comfort
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:22:25 PM PDT
by
sticker
To: presidio9
Ah, these battles among the cousins. Better off they'd just go to Sotheby's and buy something. Anyway Princess de Beauvau Craon, Deputy Chairman there, has relatives with a better claim than either! (That family is ancestral to the first Bourbon king. They had all the money too!)
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:23:21 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: presidio9
French royal claimant cannot call himself Bourbon, court rules Hmmmm... how about 'Bonbon'?
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:27:15 PM PDT
by
theDentist
(Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
To: presidio9
Everybody knows that real Bourbon is from Kentucky.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:28:26 PM PDT
by
Khurkris
(Scottish/HillBilly - Revenge is an Art Form for us. Ranger On...)
To: CatoRenasci
France would have become a monarchy again after its defeat in the Franco-Prussian War had the then pretender been willing to accept the tricolor France held a sort of constitutional convention and the vast majority of delegates were monarchists. The monarchists could not however decide whether to have a Bourbon, Orleanist or Bonapartist King. All three groups compromised on having a Republic, each calculating that they would pull a coup in few years and place their candicate on the throne. No group ever quite got around to pulling a coup and the Third Republic tottered on until Hitler put it to bed in 1940.
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posted on
10/02/2003 12:34:10 PM PDT
by
Pilsner
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