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Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal"
Multiple & linked in article | 10/2/03 | Wolfstar

Posted on 10/02/2003 7:47:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar

Note to Readers
This article uses excerpts from mainstream news sources to establish how former Amb. Joseph C. Wilson IV morphed over months from the anonymous source of a forgotten CIA-requested report, to theself-described outraged husband at the center of Washington's latest political firestorm. The sources these excerpts are drawn from are extensive and easily could make a fair-sized booklet. Therefore, the excerpts are necessarily tightly focused, and the reader is encouraged to:

  1. Pay close attention to details of how Wilson's statements and behavior morph over time—literally from no mention in an interview conducted by Bill Moyers one month after the SOUA, to his recent statements (reported elsewhere) about seeing Karl Rove being escorted from the White House in handcuffs, and movie deals for his wife and himself.
  2. Use the links provided for each excerpt to read the full source material.

Takeoff Point for Controversy
"The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
State of the Union Address, President George W. Bush, 1/28/03

Background
Mar. 31, 2003: In a lengthy New Yorker article (Who lied to whom?) Seymour Hersh writes: "The Bush Administration's reliance on...Niger documents may...have stemmed from more than bureaucratic carelessness or political overreaching. Forged documents and false accusations have been an element in U.S. and British policy toward Iraq at least since the fall of 1997...President Bill Clinton...hinted of renewed bombing, but...the British and...Americans were losing the battle for international public opinion. A former Clinton Administration official told me that London had resorted to...spreading false information about Iraq. The British propaganda program...was known to a few senior officials in Washington. 'I knew that was going on,' the former Clinton Administration official said of the British efforts."

"The chance for American intelligence to challenge the documents came as the Administration debated whether to pass them on to ElBaradei...A former intelligence officer told me that some questions about the authenticity of the Niger documents were raised inside the government by analysts at the Department of Energy and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. However, these warnings were not heeded."

" 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there,' the former high-level intelligence official added. 'It could not have gotten into the system without the agency being involved. Therefore it was an internal intention. Someone set someone up.' "

Bill Moyers interviews Joseph Wilson
Just one month to the day after the SOUA, on Feb. 28, Bill Moyers conducts a lengthy interview of Joseph Wilson for PBS. (Click for full transcript.) This is a golden opportunity (and contemporaneous to the SOUA), yet at no time does Wilson—who claims to have been immediately concerned about the Iraq-Africa reference in the SOUA—raise his concerns with Moyers. In fact, there is exactly one reference to the SOUA and then only in passing as Wilson and Moyers speculate as to what might be Hussein's reaction to the threats of war.

The first published reference to Wilson
Although it keeps bubbling in Leftist/Democrat circles, the story fades publicly until Walter Pincus of the Washington Post writes an article titled "CIA Did Not Share Doubt on Iraq Data." Published June 12, Pincus writes:

"Armed with information purportedly showing that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger...the CIA in early February 2002 dispatched a retired U.S. ambassador to the country to investigate the claims, according to the senior U.S. officials and the former government official...The sources spoke on condition of anonymity and on condition that the name of the former ambassador not be disclosed."

"After returning to the United States, the envoy reported to the CIA that the uranium-purchase story was false, the sources said...However, the CIA did not include details of the former ambassador's report and his identity as the source, which would have added to the credibility of his findings, in its intelligence reports that were shared with other government agencies. Instead, the CIA only said that Niger government officials had denied the attempted deal had taken place, a senior administration said."

" 'This gent made a visit to the region and chatted up his friends,' a senior intelligence official said, describing the agency's view of the mission. 'He relayed back to us that they said it was not true and that he believed them.' "

"When the British government published an intelligence document on Iraq in September 2002 claiming that Baghdad had 'sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa,' the former ambassador called the CIA officers who sent him to Niger and was told they were looking into new information about the claim, sources said. The former envoy later called the CIA and State Department after Bush's State of the Union speech and was told 'not to worry,' according to one U.S. official."

Who would know of, and want these phone calls made public except Wilson? It's clear that Wilson, himself, was the source who called Pincus' attention to his, by then, all-but-forgotten trip to Africa. So it's fair at this point to ask: Why did Wilson plant this nugget about himself in Pincus' story? Was he ticked because his report was not used? Significantly, this veiled reference to himself provided an excuse for Wilson's subsequent outing of himself as the "retired ambassador." Also significantly, without this Pincus story there would have been no curious reporters like Robert Novak to continue the hunt for additional story material—and no opportunity for Mrs. Plame-Wilson to later also be "outed."

Wilson "outs" himself
Note that Pincus reports "the sources" had asked him to keep the name of the "former ambassador" secret, and Pincus complied. Yet just three weeks later, Wilson "outs" himself in his July 6 New York Times article entitled What I Didn't Find in Africa. He begins with the following provocative claim:

"Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?...Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat."

His experience with the administration? Huh?! Some CIA mid-level officials asked him to look into the Iraq-Niger connection a year earlier. He made a report and they filed it. End of his "experience with the administration."

In this NYT article, Wilson goes on to say—with no small touch of conceit: "It was my experience in Africa that led me to play a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs. Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me...In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the [CIA] that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake...by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office."

Note that Wilson does not say what prompted the CIA to select him for this mission beyond his "experience in Africa." Who called his experience to the CIA officials' attention in February 2002? This is a very legitimate question, so Robert Novak was quite right when he tried to find out how a long-time Democrat, former member of Bill Clinton's National Security staff, and contributor to the Al Gore and John Kerry presidential campaigns, was chosen to conduct this mission. And why did the CIA even need to turn to a retired ambassador in the first place? The then-current U.S. ambassador to Niger had also looked into the matter and had come to the same conclusions.

Before he left Niger, Wilson said he briefed the ambassador on his findings. After returning to Washington...he provided "a detailed briefing to the CIA [and]...the State Department African Affairs Bureau. There was nothing secret or earth-shattering in my report, just as there was nothing secret about my trip...Though I did not file a written report..."

Wilson then claims he "thought the Niger matter was settled and went back to my life. (I did take part in the Iraq debate, arguing that a strict containment regime backed by the threat of force was preferable to an invasion.) In September 2002, however, Niger re-emerged. The British government published a 'white paper' asserting that...Hussein and his unconventional arms posed an immediate danger. As evidence, the report cited Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from an African country."

If, in 2002, Wilson was so concerned, as he professes today, he could have written an article immediately after the British dossier was published. The subject was the hottest one on the media radar, and he would have had no trouble getting it published that September. Yet he waited about 10 months before writing this NYT piece. Why? In it he tacks on the fresh concern about the President's SOUA (remember, he hadn't said a word about it to Moyers in February). Why?

Wilson continued, "Then, in January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa...The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them."

Wilson concludes his NYT piece with the following paragraph. By the way, note how the tenor of his commentary is becoming more harsh. Also note his subtle pique about—from his point of view—the CIA's failure to give his report the weight he expected.

"The question now is how that answer was or was not used by our political leadership. If my information was deemed inaccurate, I understand (though I would be very interested to know why). If, however, the information was ignored because it did not fit certain preconceptions about Iraq, then a legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses."

Wilson ratchets up his charges and rhetoric
In a July 6 Washington Post piece titled, "Ex-Envoy: Nuclear Report Ignored," Richard Leiby and Walter Pincus help Wilson get up a head of steam on this story.

(A couple of curiosities: What is the connection between Pincus and Wilson? How is it that Leiby and Pincus have this article all ready to go—complete with harsh quotes from Wilson—ON THE SAME DAY Wilson's article appears in the New York Times?)

The Leiby-Pincus article begins: "Joseph C. Wilson, the retired United States ambassador whose CIA-directed mission to Niger in early 2002 helped debunk claims that Iraq had tried to obtain uranium there for nuclear weapons, has said for the first time publicly that U.S. And British officials ignored his findings and exaggerated the public case for invading Iraq...'It really comes down to the administration misrepresenting the facts on an issue that was a fundamental justification for going to war,' Wilson said yesterday. 'It begs the question, what else are they lying about?' "

Again note the ratcheting up of tone—in his own NYT article on the same day, Wilson says IF his report was deemed inaccurate; IF it was ignored then a legitimate argument can be made. In contrast, here it's a declarative statement that the administration misrepresented the facts, and Wilson introduces the entirely unsupported notion that the administration is "lying."

Leiby and Pincus also put this nugget in their piece: "After Bush's speech, Wilson said he contacted the State Department, noted that the Niger story had been debunked and said, 'You might want to make sure the facts are straight.' " Note the similarity and—more importantly—the difference in what Wilson wrote in his own NYT piece:

"The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them."

In concluding their article, Leiby and Pincus write, "Last week, Wilson said of Hussein: 'I'm glad the tyrant is gone.' But he does not believe the war was ever about eliminating Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. It was, he said, a political push to 'redraw the map of the Middle East.' While his family prepared for a Fourth of July dinner, he proudly showed a reporter photos of himself with Bush's parents."

So at least one reporter knew Mrs. Plame-Wilson personally—not only knew her, but shared Fourth of July dinner with her and the Wilson family BEFORE THE NOVAK PIECE. Who in their right mind would take bets at this point that the reporter in question was NOT Pincus?! In fact, the dual statements about the State Department phone call clearly demonstrate that Leiby and Pincus had an advance copy of Wilson's NYT article.

Robert Novak steps into it
Prompted by Wilson's NYT piece and curiosity as to why Wilson was selected for the Niger trip, Robert Novak writes, "Mission to Niger" on July 14. He begins: "The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge. Remarkably, this produced a political firestorm that has not yet subsided."

"Wilson's report that an Iraqi purchase of uranium yellowcake from Niger was highly unlikely was regarded by the CIA as less than definitive, and it is doubtful Tenet ever saw it. Certainly, President Bush did not, prior to his 2003 State of the Union address, when he attributed reports of attempted uranium purchases to the British government."

Novak briefly discusses background to the Wilson mission, then writes: "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. 'I will not answer any question about my wife,' Wilson told me."

Novak also notes: "All this [the Niger trip and Wilson's report] was forgotten until reporter Walter Pincus revealed in the Washington Post...that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report. Not until Wilson went public...however, did his finding ignite the firestorm...During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Wilson had taken a measured public position—viewing weapons of mass destruction as a danger but considering military action as a last resort. He has seemed much more critical of the administration since revealing his role in Niger," Novak observes.

In his conclusion, Novak quotes Wilson: "After the White House admitted error, Wilson declined all television and radio interviews. 'The story was never me,' he told me, 'it was always the statement in (Bush's) speech.' " (Note in the David Corn piece below how this morphs also.)

Oh, really. Never about him, but always about the SOUA statement. This is the same Joseph Wilson who, at the beginning of this saga, said he first became concerned when the British government released its dossier in September 2002. So which is it, Joe?

Hungry for a Bush scandal, the Left leaps
The first charge that the Bush administration "outed" Wilson's wife in order to "punish" him comes in a piece by David Corn in The Nation on July 16—a scant two days after Novak's piece appeared. Titled, "A White House Smear," the piece begins with a suitably inflammatory Leftist spin:

"Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security-and break the law-in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?...It sure looks that way, if conservative journalist Bob Novak can be trusted."

Of course, Novak neither said nor implied any such thing, but pointing that out wouldn't suit Corn's purpose. Instead, without a shred of evidence, Corn claims, "Wilson caused problems for the White House, and his wife was outed as an undercover CIA officer." Corn then takes the Wilson statement about it "not being about me," and turns it into, "I will not answer questions about my wife. This is not about me and less so about my wife. It has always been about the facts underpinning the President's statement in the state of the union speech." In quotes, no less. So was this a new quote directly from Wilson to Corn, or did Corn deliberately rephrase the original quote in Novak's piece to make it stronger from Corn's point of view? In other words, is Wilson embellishing his tale, or is Corn lying?

In a presumed attempt to write sympathetically of Mrs. Plame-Wilson, Corn then goes on to add insult to a presumed injury by bringing the couple's children into the story: "So he will neither confirm nor deny that his wife—who is the mother of three-year-old twins—works for the CIA. But let's assume she does. That would seem to mean that the Bush administration has screwed one of its own top-secret operatives in order to punish Wilson or to send a message to others who might challenge it."

(How does Corn know they have three-year-old twins, by the way?)

Corn goes on to say, "The sources for Novak's assertion about Wilson's wife appear to be 'two senior administration officials.' If so, a pair of top Bush officials told a reporter the name of a CIA operative who apparently has worked under what's known as "nonofficial cover" and who has had the dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material. If Wilson's wife is such a person—and the CIA is unlikely to have many employees like her—her career has been destroyed by the Bush administration. (Assuming she did not tell friends and family about her real job, these Bush officials have also damaged her personal life.) Without acknowledging whether she is a deep-cover CIA employee, Wilson says, 'Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of...Aldrich Ames.' If she is not a CIA employee and Novak is reporting accurately, then the White House has wrongly branded a woman known to friends as an energy analyst for a private firm as a CIA officer."

Corn "assumes" that she did not tell friends and family about her real job, so how does Corn know that she worked under "nonofficial cover?" How does he know what mission she had been assigned? If even the mention of her name and employment with the CIA is so damaging, why did Corn go further than Novak and reveal her cover type and mission? And good heavens, but he now has Wilson saying this is the stuff of Aldrich Ames!

Corn goes on: "Novak tells me that he was indeed tipped off by government officials about Wilson's wife and had no reluctance about naming her. 'I figured if they gave it to me,' he says. 'They'd give it to others....I'm a reporter. Somebody gives me information and it's accurate. I generally use it.' And Wilson says Novak told him that his sources were administration officials."

So yet another curiosity pops up in this saga: In the 10/1/03 article discussing his role, Bob Novak's description of what happened contradicts what, in July, Corn said Novak told him. Was Corn lying then, or was Novak bragging to him then, or is Novak lying now?

In any case, Corn quotes Wilson again: " 'Stories like this,' Wilson says, 'are not intended to intimidate me, since I've already told my story. But it's pretty clear it is intended to intimidate others who might come forward. You need only look at the stories of intelligence analysts who say they have been pressured. They may have kids in college, they may be vulnerable to these types of smears.' "

Note how, between February and July, Wilson's story morphs from no mention during the Moyers interview, to a phone call to State to voice concern, then a statement indicating that he's OK with everything as long as the Administration admitted its SOUA mistake, to the above quote with its suggestion of danger to kids, to where we are today.

Corn ends with the theme we've heard from the Left ever since his article appeared: "The Wilson smear was a thuggish act. Bush and his crew abused and misused intelligence to make their case for war. Now there is evidence Bushies used classified information and put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at risk merely to settle a score. It is a sign that with this gang politics trumps national security."

"A thuggish act?" Evidence? "Put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at risk to settle a score?" Quite list of assertions, based as they are on zero evidence of any such thing. In fact, when looked at in the sequence above, Wilson seems to have been the person who set up the whole story.


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To: cyncooper
Thank you SO much for the link to that early piece in The Nation by Wilson. I had not seen it before. Yep, he missed another golden opportunity to state his concerns openly to a friendly audience. The obvious conclusion to draw is that he didn't have any such concerns initially, but that it became a convenient excuse to insert himself into the controversy that arose from the SOUA.

Other FReepers have said they think there is a wider story here, and they may well be right. But at least insofar as the thread that winds through to eruption of the current "leak" controversy, it looks like Wilson, Pincus, Corn, and probably Wilson's wife are the key players.

121 posted on 10/02/2003 3:22:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: piasa
Thanks, will do.
122 posted on 10/02/2003 3:23:12 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
"As much as possible, I try to deal in facts and let others draw their own conclusions."

I understand the distinction. You have done an outstanding job uncovering facts and drawing inferences as to who's who which have the force of near-certainty.

And, from these, I am making suppositions (or, more accurately, drawing hypotheses).

123 posted on 10/02/2003 3:23:49 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: piasa
The Niger-Iraq element in this who thing is murky and strange. It's this sort of thing the media ought to be digging into, instead of feeding us all sorts of nonsense.
124 posted on 10/02/2003 3:29:41 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: dirtboy
"What is really striking is the raw number of lies folks have woven into their attacks on Bush regarding first the uranium claim and then the leak...Yet the media re-packages all this nonsense and leads with it nightly..."

Relevant to your particular concern, the below link may come in handy -- if you hadn't already come across it...

Democrats On The Record -- What President Bush's Detractors Wish They Had Never Said

125 posted on 10/02/2003 3:31:05 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okie01
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that others shouldn't draw their own conclusions or suppositions. The opposite is the case. My whole aim is to encourage people to use their minds, think this sort of thing through to reasonable conclusions, and share what they discover. It's just that credibility is important in putting together a piece like this, and the best way to gain credibility is to deal in demonstrable facts. Also, where it's very difficult for one person to make a difference, working together we have more power than we realize.
126 posted on 10/02/2003 3:38:22 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me...In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the [CIA] that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake...by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office."Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me...In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the [CIA] that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake...by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office."

Agency officials asked him to check out the stry so they could provide a RESPONSE to the VP office......iteresting word...response....and while he says he did NOT see the report, my guess is that the lovely Mrs. Rosenberg-Wilson did see it!!! Maybe...just maybe it contradicted everthing that Ethel Plame had put into HER reports!

So when the VP needs a RESPONSE by the CIA, who do they send....someone who does NOT WORK for the CIA.....wow...now that makes sense!!!

If your boss needs a something done, do you send your friend to do it?

The Rosenberg-Wilsons are a very interesting little couple....he being the Ambassador t IRAQ when the FIRST Gulf War crap hit the fan.......so he HAS been in touch with Saddam....maybe friendly...and maybe his wife is friendly also in her reporting.....hmmmm...stay tuned. Was Joe Rosenberg-Wilson on TV today???

127 posted on 10/02/2003 3:44:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: okie01; piasa; dirtboy; Wolfstar; William McKinley; PhilDragoo; Miss Marple; Dog; Dog Gone; ...
Miss Marple and I have commented for years about how coordinated the attacks on our President seem to be with the lunatic left and the lunatics claiming to be the only conservatives.

Bob the Nailer and No Pardons and others have commented about this so called coincidence. The timing in many attacks are like what Okie01 has noted on this reply re the spook source for a certain so called conservative.
128 posted on 10/02/2003 4:05:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (W. Clark, "If Karl Rove returned my phone calls, I could have run as a Republican!")
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To: okie01; piasa; dirtboy; Wolfstar; William McKinley; PhilDragoo; Miss Marple; Dog; Dog Gone; ...
Miss Marple and I have commented for a couple of years about how coordinated the attacks on our President seem to be with the lunatic left and the lunatics claiming to be the only conservatives.

Bob the Nailer and No Pardons and others have commented about this so called coincidence. The timing in many attacks are like what Okie01 has noted on this reply re the spook source for a certain so called conservative. Just look at the various post Iraq war coincidences like the so called looting of the Baghdad museum.
129 posted on 10/02/2003 4:07:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (W. Clark, "If Karl Rove returned my phone calls, I could have run as a Republican!")
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To: Wolfstar
EXCELLENT compilation, Wolfstar! Now the leftist WOMEN, led by Barbara Boxer, are chipping at the sexism angle because the supposed covert officer is a woman. These people are desperate!
130 posted on 10/02/2003 4:12:02 PM PDT by arasina
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To: Grampa Dave
Unfortunately, the tactic works. You'll never see a poll on this, but how many Americans believe the Iraqi museum lost most of its antiquities to looters and Bush failed to prevent it?

I'll bet it's close to 70%.

131 posted on 10/02/2003 4:13:59 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Wolfstar
Bump for later reading.
132 posted on 10/02/2003 4:19:15 PM PDT by The Iguana
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To: arasina
Yuch! I live in California and am disgusted that Boxer is one of my senators.
133 posted on 10/02/2003 4:20:02 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Dog Gone
I still hear in N. California from moderates and lunatic libs about the horrible thefts from the Baghdad museum. I just say to them, "Write down on paper what you know was stolen. Then I can prove what a liar your are."

No one has written anything down on paper. I have given them a week to write their list down. Months later, I still have no lists from them."
134 posted on 10/02/2003 4:20:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (W. Clark, "If Karl Rove returned my phone calls, I could have run as a Republican!")
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To: Wolfstar; JohnHuang2; Taxman; Alamo-Girl
Excellent report Wolfstar!
135 posted on 10/02/2003 5:06:35 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: Wolfstar
It's better that you have kept the focus narrow on this and it is appreciated.
136 posted on 10/02/2003 5:41:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Wolfstar
JULY 8, 2003 : (CAPITOL HILL BLUE PUBLISHES DOUG THOMPSON ARTICLE UNDER THE TITLE "White House Admits Bush Lied About Iraqi Nukes") -"White House Admits Bush Lied About Iraqi Nukes"
137 posted on 10/02/2003 5:48:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: windchime
You are most welcome, Windchime.
138 posted on 10/02/2003 6:21:48 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: piasa
Thanks, Piasa. Your links are valuable, BTW.
139 posted on 10/02/2003 6:24:12 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
Well .. I think the wife is more involved than you have noted. She and Hillary are bestest of friends, and the Wilsons have held fundraisers for both the Clintons.

If the wife suggested Wilson go on the trip - I can put 2+2 together and get Hillary as the suggestor!

Since the clintons were sashaying their behinds all over the world trying to drum up support for FRANCE's stand against the war, surely the Clintons could have taken advantage of Valerie's connections to get one of the left's "operatives" to go to Niger, in order to set up the scam. The clintons did everything they could to try to stop the war. I believe this was behind the motivation; thinking if the intel wasn't there - somehow this was going to influence Bush and stop him from going to war.

Hillary had to know what a war would do for Bush's numbers. People were angry and we wanted those murderers to be brought to justice. And .. the clintons wanted to protect France's investment in Iraq; which x42 had to know about.

The other problem is that the UK has never backed off on their assertion that Iraq had made inquiries about purchasing yellowcake; and the added fact that the UK has other independent confirmation of that information.

My final point of agreement is also about the wife. I find it rather interesting that Wilson's wife works in WMD and the biggest stink coming out of Congress is WMD. I do not believe for one moment this is a coincidence.

You know, the day this began breaking, Eric Burns (FOX-Newswatch), was interviewed by Shep and Eric is really puzzled by a lot of this. Why don't you email him this link. I think Eric would find it most interesting.
140 posted on 10/02/2003 7:16:46 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America - The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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