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Tom McClintock will most likely be Ostracized – and he probably will Deserve It
9-30-2003 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 09/30/2003 8:38:06 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin

Tom McClintock will most likely be Ostracized – and he probably will Deserve It.

Yesterday, I heard a radio ad on a local Bay Area AM station, run by some American Indian tribe. That is how they identified themselves – as an Indian Nation, and they were running a political ad for Tom McClintock, the theme that, as conservatives, if we voted our conscious, then Tom McClintock can win. Don’t listen to the nay-sayers, say the Indian gaming interests, not only can Tom McClintock win, he WILL win if we all vote principle. And, ka-Ching, it sort of sounds like some of those other American Indian radio ads for their Indian Casino(s) - we are ALL WINNERS at their casino.

Yes sir, we are all going to WIN! I guess Tom took some money from the Indian gambling interests.

I guess some American Indians are not only leftists, but conservatives as well.

I can tell you one thing, they know how to run the numbers, and lay the crap table so that, in the end, they win.

And now I’m being told, if all of us American Indians and conservatives vote for Tom, then not only can Tom win, he WILL win – ka-CHING!

Hmmm. I’m thinking, maybe these American Indians want to split the Republican vote, so that Bustamante wins. I’m thinking, every time I turn around, there’s another Indian casino popping up. And, I don’t know, nothing against Indians, because if anyone knows me, they know I support and am the friend of the Indians. So, I guess I shouldn’t complain too much about the casinos, but maybe I’m thinking “what the hell is Tom McClintock thinking?”, taking this money, and now these ads.

And now, maybe I’m thinking that Tom McClintock is a stubborn mule instead of a statesman. I mean, I remember in the story by Carlo Collodi, the wooden boy Pinocchio wanted to become a real boy. But, he almost turned into a donkey – he didn’t listen to his father who carved him from wood, and as a result Pinocchio didn’t think “long term”, and went to Pleasure Island, and then he started to grow a tail and long ears. He was “half-donkey”, and the only thing that would save him then was that he would have to become a hero. Luckily for him, he did, because he saved his father’s life.

I hate to say it, but Tom McClintock is now sort of “half-donkey”. I guess he can turn this around, but what he has to do now is become a hero. Because, I can tell you right now, if he spoils this thing, he’s gonna’ be ostracized by the Republican Party. That’s a fact. There are other folks, who are like the Blue Fairy or the Puppet Maker – and they can, and will ostracize him. And, I’m sad to say, he will probably deserve it. I guess, the Republican Party in some ways is no different than the Democratic Party - like some conservative talk show hosts say as they tell Arnold to “go to hell”, and huff and puff, and declare themselves “independents” like Arianna. So, Tom won’t probably be getting money from the officiano’s anymore, but that won’t necessarily mean anything, he has millions of supporters who will donate to his future campaigns, and since the Republicans are so horrible, he could even maybe run as an Independent like Arianna or join the American Independent Party.

Then again, Tom McClintock can become a real boy, and not a wooden boy. Like Pinocchio, what he has to do is become a hero. He has to save his father, for example.

He can do this two ways, the way I figure.

The first way he can become a hero is, he can WIN the election for governor. But, I don’t think that’s going to happen. I am following the “Can’t Milk a Bull” strategy for Republican victory in this recall. How it goes is, yes I like Tom, and everyone, including the American Indian gaming interests who support Bustamante, say Tom can WIN, and are campaigning for Tom so they can split the Republican vote. Tom is letting them do campaigning for him. He’s “rising in the polls”, etc.. So I said, “ok, they say he’s rising in the polls, that he can WIN. I will HELP him rise in the polls – if a pollster calls me, I will say ‘Tom McClintock’ . . . I will, and did, send him money. And so, Tom will be given EVERY CHANCE TO KA-CHING! And then, one week BEFORE the election, we see the results of the crap game. And, whoever is leading in the polls among Republicans one week before the election, THAT’S WHO I VOTE FOR”.

Well. We had the big debate. And Stan the moderator won the debate, since he also sort of participated in it. Yes, it was a wild an’ woolly debate, but the wool wasn’t sheep wool, it was crazy, and now we have the post-debate polls. And Arnold is now surging UP in the polls, beating Bustamante, and Tom isn’t.

And, we now have another poll about a week off, and Arnold, who will make a GREAT governor, and will make the Republican Party proud, is winning, and Tom isn’t.

So, I’m voting for our next Governor of California, Governor Arnold, who is going to make us all proud, including those conservatives who say “go to hell, Arnold” and are registered “Independents”.

And that’s it.

Except, for the Tom thing, who is growing long ears now.

So, Tom can WIN the big Ka-CHING, and become the hero, and his tail and ears will go away. The other way he can become a hero is to get out of the race.

But he won’t. That’s what he says.

I’m not going to scream at him. Neither will the Republican “terrorists”, as he called them.

So he can stay in. And maybe Arnold will still win, anyway. Tom won’t become a hero – either by winning, or, it seems, by dropping out.

But I can tell you one thing. If Bustamante wins, because of Tom with the tail, by God, I will figure him a full fledged Donkey. And, you can bet, as it sinks in, I won’t be alone. And all the “independents” won’t be enough in numbers to stop a lot of folks from getting real angry. Tom will have four legs, not two.

Anyway, Tom is a statesman. A great conservative. Principle.

And, maybe he’s also a great conservative, statesman, principle, and a donkey.

In one way, it’s the Republican Party’s own fault. So in that, I agree with the principled "independents”. They can argue very effectively the point about the logic of such “victory”. Yes, the logic of the Party’s victory sprang directly from her degradation brought about by the subject. And the independents tell us, that in loneliness we “shall not be alone” – for we are vast in numbers, smart, see the “long term”. But, well, to hell with them this time. I don’t think Tom is seeing the “long term”. Nope. So Lee Rogers can scream all he wants, and yes I’m one of those “crazy right-wingers” that Arnold spoke about, but I like Arnold, I know he’s my candidate, and now, with Tom becoming a donkey, Arnold is not only my choice but my hero. He’s a hero, he can win this one. And, when I say win, I’m not just talking about numbers and I’m not playing a crap game in an Indian casino. He’s a hero, because I believe he doesn’t care about the numbers, nor does he try to embarrass Tom. Yes, Tom has also been polite, but I can’t say Tom didn’t try to embarrass Arnold. Of course, I’m in effect calling Tom a donkey, so I a lot worse than either Tom or Arnold. But that’s about as far as I will go in regards to Tom McClintock, in calling him a stubborn mule. Others are going to get a lot more nasty. Tom DIDN’T think “long term”. In the next few days, either Tom will become the hero, or Tom is a real short timer, now.

Which do you think the Injun’s are betting on?

By the way, my wife just told me that the Indian’s want to build a casino in Antioch, California. It’s just on the news, now.

Wow. Ka-CHING! California, the big casino.


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1 posted on 09/30/2003 8:38:08 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin
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2 posted on 09/30/2003 8:39:27 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
And, we now have another poll about a week off, and Arnold, who will make a GREAT governor, and will make the Republican Party proud, is winning, and Tom isn’t.

Hooo, boy. I'm going to save this for my "I told you so files."

3 posted on 09/30/2003 8:40:59 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
I heard a questioin on drive-time radio this morning and maybe some of you can enlighten me:

Why is it that they insist on calling it 'Indian Gaming', but in all other matters you must call them Native Americans or else you're a racist?
4 posted on 09/30/2003 8:44:56 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Brian_Baldwin
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5 posted on 09/30/2003 8:48:26 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Brian_Baldwin
McClintock has become the symbol of all conservatives everywhere in the country. Should he be ostracized after the election, it will do far more damage to the GOP as a whole than it will to McClintock himself, who has a bright future thanks to the 20% of the national electorate that are true-blue conservatives. The way he has been treated is representative of conservatives as a whole... the way he will be treated after the election will be a harbinger of what is to come for the rest of us.
6 posted on 09/30/2003 8:49:47 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Glad to know Rhinold the trojan Republican's money
is untainted
from Las Vegas and Hollywood
Bwahahahahaha
However if McClintoc took gambling money than he is a hippocrite and not what he says he is
if however the indian mafia set him up to look like he did...then that should be brought out as well..
As far as being a "good" Governor....well compared to Davis...Al Bundy would make a good Gov.
7 posted on 09/30/2003 8:50:02 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
It's weird how the Indians have become the focus of evil all of a sudden.

The irony is Schwarzenegger's plan to rely on Indian casino money for the state revenue will make them even more powerfull.

8 posted on 09/30/2003 8:55:07 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Brian_Baldwin
It's funny how Senator Warner was never Ostracized by the Pubbies after he got a third party candidate to run against Ollie North (the Republican Candidate).
9 posted on 09/30/2003 8:55:21 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Ross was right !!!)
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To: thoughtomator
a bright future thanks to the 20% of the national electorate

Ummmmm, how often does one actually WIN an election with 20% of the popular vote? Just curious...

10 posted on 09/30/2003 8:56:04 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Send him to Minnesota. We need all the men of principle we can get.
11 posted on 09/30/2003 8:58:34 AM PDT by DManA
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To: L,TOWM
The question is, how can Republicans win without it? Only by becoming, in essence, Democrats. Is that really what the GOP wants? That 20% is the part that sticks to what has heretofore been GOP principles come hell or high water.
12 posted on 09/30/2003 8:59:01 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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To: joesnuffy
However if McClintoc took gambling money than he is a hippocrite

McClintock has always been a supporter of Indian "soverignty" and has always been supported by them.

He's not a hypocrite. He is very straightforward and open about it.

I am against gambling in California except for horse racing and think Indian gaming has not been good.

Schwarzenegger's idea to start relying on Indian gaming money makes it that much stronger and impssible to ever hold back.

Further Schwarzenegger has ties to Nevada gambling concerns and most likley will expand gambling beyond just Indian gaming -- all the "raise revenues".

13 posted on 09/30/2003 8:59:54 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: L,TOWM
How often are you satisfied with the performance of "electable" Republicans?
14 posted on 09/30/2003 9:00:48 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
In California, we never get the chance to find out. Let me remind you that all statewide offices are held by Democrats. Candidates who are conservative on economic issues but liberal on social issues are electable in California. Social conservatives are not. The same holds true in New York and Massachusetts. It's a fact and no amount of whining by die hards will change it. Grow up.
15 posted on 09/30/2003 9:11:02 AM PDT by 2iron
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To: DManA; thoughtomator
About 40% more often than the unelectable ones.

You see, when you are not elected you cannot please or displease any one. It is because you have satisfied the three criteria for avoiding praise or criticism (in the political sense):

1) Say nothing.
2) Do nothing.
3) Be nothing.

We have a peculiar system--One needs to actually hold an office to accomplish things that matter. I know that particular concept is foreign to 20% of the CA voting population, but it is fundamental in our system. WIthout winning, even the best conservative is as relevant as Arianna Huffingpaint.

So on a scale of satisfaction:

Unelectable Republicans = 0% satisfaction (see above comments)

Elected Democrats = 10% (See "Even a broken clock is right twice a day".)

Elected Republicans = 40%
16 posted on 09/30/2003 9:13:17 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Cousin Eddie
Why is it that they insist on calling it 'Indian Gaming', but in all other matters you must call them Native Americans or else you're a racist?

Why is it that it is o.k. for the NAACP to use "colored people" in its name but in all other matters if you use that phrase you're a racist? For that matter, why is it that "people of color" is politically correct but "colored people" is not? Why is it that you will be called a racist if you dare to criticize black rappers can use "The N Word" and laugh about beating and raping women?

I used to struggle to try and find some consistancy in the rules of political correctness until I finally realized the single unifying principal: If you are a white male, you are wrong.

17 posted on 09/30/2003 9:15:57 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: thoughtomator
That 20% is the part that sticks to what has heretofore been GOP principles come hell or high water.

That 20% are the Trans-Republicans. While they claim to be the core of the Republican party, they actually go way beyond core Republican ideas and add their own narrow social agenda. In the battle between personal freedom and government control, they enthusiastically support the expansion of government. In the long run Republicans would be better off without them.

18 posted on 09/30/2003 9:16:41 AM PDT by owl
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To: Cousin Eddie
Heard the same thing this morning on KABC radio. Can we call them Native American Casinos? Why Indian Gaming? Weird. ALl I know is that no Indian I ever knew called himself a Native American.
19 posted on 09/30/2003 9:17:40 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: L,TOWM
But conservatives don't vote for Democrats in order to be part of a winning coalition. If a left-wing GOP candidate is in fact hostile to conservatism, the conservatives have no reason to vote for that candidate either.

The power of the conservative vote is used to influence candidates to support conservative policy. If the candidate refuses to support conservative policy, or is in fact inimical to such policy, then the reason for conservatives to vote for that candidate evaporates.

Just because conservatives can't necessarily win alone does not mean that they should be excluded from policy entirely, as the left-wing of the GOP clearly aims to do.

The perfect example of gaining in policy with less than the number of votes needed to win outright is the homosexual lobby. That group is a lot smaller than conservatives, yet they see their causes continuously advance. At twice that strength, why must conservatives be content with continuous retreat?
20 posted on 09/30/2003 9:19:39 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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