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to Ragtime's DISTURBING BUT IMPORTANT thread & also help or input requested for the following exchange.

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Ragtime " Be prepared to receive both gratitude and hate mail in response to this painful reality e-mail.

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Dolly: Yes, I am aware of the praise & the flaming that I receive each time I do this & include libs.

NOW, your & ATRW input. Here is one response I received. Want to tell you that this woman is a male hater (can tell NOT the ONLY email I receive from her is "humor" that is male bashing.) and I also have known her over the years. She also has returned my humor with corrections on spelling in grammar in RED. She was removed from Humor list. Rarely do I write to her anymore. I did send her this week a note w/pix of my new grandson (our boys played together as kids). I received NO response from that mail.

Ok. here is what she sent me & what I have to possibly send her. My response will not address either the political or biblical ...... but I could. I frankly know I will not change her & it is a nice day & after I do yard work, I want to go out & play.

@@@ Lorna's response to the Ragtime mailing

Shame on me?? How dare you!!! The main reason I cannot tolerate you "conservative, Republican, 'patriot' anti-liberal" people is that you try to shame anyone who disagrees with you. You say we are unpatriotic and and insinuate that we are unchristian. Again, how dare you? I have asked you repeatedly to stop sending me this drivel and you keep sending it. I have thought about sending you an equal amount of liberal reading material, but so far have not given into my urges. I have tried not to lower myself to your Rush-like standards of hatred and intimidation. I do have one which I will send you which is the kind of thing which lead me to try not retaliate in like kind. It seemed to me to be the most "Christian" way of handling things. I prefer to concentrate on Christ's call to love my enemies and pray for those who persecute me, even though I will admit it is very hard. One reason that I continue to go to Grandview is because instead of having a sign which says "pray for our troops," we have a sign which says "pray for peace." I can't even find in the NT that God loves only Jews, much less that he loves only Americans or that somehow one nation is his preferred one. Don't you realize that by demonizing an enemy ( Iraq or the "liberal" press) you are only projecting your own "sins" onto someone else. It is taking the easy way out. You are better than that. You are certainly more educated than that. I don't hope to change your mind, but I do finally hope to get you to stop sending me this stuff. PLEASE. ljc

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My "in mail waiting to be sent" folder.. but waiting for your comments actually note

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Dear Lorna,

I have sent you just one mailing of a political nature the past couple months & should mention I get regular (daily) Lib material from family & friends who share. I am not offended by this & am glad that they go through their research & send me the best. I read & try to grow & see the other side. We seem to have intelligent & enjoyable exchanges, which have deepened our mutual respect & friendship.

This was authored / compiled by a friend in Texas....... I note that the entire last paragraph was omitted which included the source info.. My error. I was NOT the author/compiler but agree & accept your "flaming".

I respected your request to not mail.. I send out multi weekly things (and sometimes daily) to others who are in the political wave, so to speak..... so you have NOT been bombarded with my "drivel". Sorry that this one piece so offended you. I can assure you, you will NOT receive anything further from me.

I can only PRAY MYSELF that the enemies you pray for and deeply love.. do no harm to those you love. And BTW I did feel the Christian love just ooze out of your note.

Have a nice weekend Lorna.

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This is my "draft note" BUT IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS .. please contribute. I have really at this point written her off (which I think is refected in the note) but do want to respond in a civil, intelligent manner

Tell her that you pray for long term peace, not the cover your eyes and it will all go away kind of peace.

Frustrating, Dolly. It appears that her spring is wound a little to tight.

I think your note is just fine. I wouldn't waste time with her any more. Those who are blind about Iraq are too vested in their world view, and will not admit they could have been wrong (Jeanine Garapolou comes to mind).

Shake the dust from your feet and move on.

I'm sorry to be the cause of any animosity between 'old' neighbors, Dolly. Removing "SHAME ON YOU!" may be a good idea before sending to non-press/pol acquaintances. I forget sometimes that the world outside of politics and press is easily offended. Especially today.

It is more important to let others know how cruel Saddam was/is, than to take them to task for their politics.

Feel free to edit out all politics and "shaming"...and whatever will keep you safe from flaming.

Now, for professional reporters and politicians....leave in the "shaming", I think. (^:

Her "love thy enemy" is superficial. She's never had to put her "belief" where she thinks her heart really is. She's never met a real enemy, not someone like Sadaam. She's never had to fear for her life or those of her loved ones. Her Christianity has been in the church and her home. She's never really had to put her faith to the test. She does believe, that I'm sure of, but her belief has never really been tested. She is a liberal, that is for sure, she probabbly listens to the alphabet press, and listens to people of like minds. Until she's put to the real test, she will always believe someone like Saddam never existed. Dolly, I wouldn't send her anymore information, someday something may happen to allow her to see and believe the truth. Until that time, she will be a "forgive thy enemy, for they know not what they are doing".
I have known people like this and have moved beyond their areas, my time is too important to waste it.