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Confederate Soldiers' Funeral Debated
Associated Press ^ | 09/28/2003

Posted on 09/28/2003 3:47:13 PM PDT by sheltonmac

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- A proposal to have the bodies of eight Confederate sailors lie in state in the Capitol has drawn criticism from some who contend giving them the honor would be unfair and disrespectful.

The sailors' remains were recovered when the submarine H.L. Hunley was brought up in 2000 from the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, where it sank shortly after downing the Union blockade ship Housatonic in 1864. The Hunley was the first submarine to sink an enemy ship during a war.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: dixie; dixielist; hlhunley
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To: Ipse Dixit
It's much better that the carcasses of you and your treasonous ilk of Lee, Jackson, Bell, Davis, Bragg, Breckenridge, Beauregard, Cheatham, Ewell, Forrest, etc., and the rest of your belly-crawling low life Southern dog schmegma be tossed together in a pit, burned into nothingness with sulfurous magma, your ashes stirred with lye, and then your worthless, murderous, union-hating memories, be covered up cat feces and sewed with rock salt. That would the appropriate honor you and all such treasonists richly deserve

Why thank you!!

21 posted on 09/28/2003 6:01:28 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
LOL! I couldn't quite think of how to respond to that one. But yours was quite appropriate.
22 posted on 09/28/2003 6:02:30 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
IF you don't like it, you can keep your (and your old ragged grandparent's) ass out.

I must say, disparaging one's grandparents is mighty low. But, I see you're only picking on one of my granparents. Which one do you have a problem with?

23 posted on 09/28/2003 6:05:26 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: raggededge
I was not aware of such a "no U.S. flag" movement. I do not agree with it, nor do I believe that either the Friends of the Hunley or the South Carolina Hunley Commission (who are calling the shots on the funeral) had anything to do with it.

If such a petition/movement exists, I strongly suspect that it began, at least, as backlash against earlier protests against the display of the Confederate flag (especially the Battle Flag) at the ceremonies.

I fully expect to see blue-clad (Union) reenactors in the funeral cortege. Should they not bear the proper flag?

This entire subject of protesting what should be a solemn, historical ceremony is disgusting. No matter which side of the issue they are trying to hype, such intrusive opportunists are, IMNSHO, no better than the proverbial "[foreign object] in the punchbowl"...

24 posted on 09/28/2003 6:08:35 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: Ipse Dixit
It's much better that the carcasses of you and your treasonous ilk of Lee, Jackson, Bell, Davis, Bragg, Breckenridge, Beauregard, Cheatham, Ewell, Forrest, etc., and the rest of your belly-crawling low life Southern dog schmegma be tossed together in a pit, burned into nothingness with sulfurous magma, your ashes stirred with lye, and then your worthless, murderous, union-hating memories, be covered up cat feces and sewed with rock salt. That would the appropriate honor you and all such treasonists richly deserve

And we'd still prefer that to a burial on yankee land. LOL

26 posted on 09/28/2003 6:31:41 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird (constipated people don't give a crap.)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Touché
27 posted on 09/28/2003 6:36:47 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: raggededge
It makes one think that this was printed to color the opinions of SC legislators.

Could be... Proximity to politicians seems to stimulate all sorts of strange behavior.

28 posted on 09/28/2003 6:51:19 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: wimpycat
I think you got my point. 'Nuff said.
29 posted on 09/28/2003 6:58:18 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: shuckmaster; TXnMA; Ipse Dixit; billbears
Honoring Hunley crew re-enactor's final duty

Steve Burt understood honor. Many of us do. Those without honor hate us for it.

30 posted on 09/28/2003 7:02:37 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ("Fahr na hole!")
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To: sheltonmac
Why should these Confederate soldiers get much more recognition for what they gave than others that died at, for example, Gettysburg?
31 posted on 09/28/2003 7:04:21 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: wimpycat
Many of them, especially if they recieved a Pension from the State of South Carolina, had their funerals paid for.

These men were pioneers, and took extreme risks...they deserve to be buried with honors.
32 posted on 09/28/2003 7:14:44 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Dixie and Texas Forever!)
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To: TXnMA
Welcome Home Brother...!

(From the land of the "enemy" and the Kennedys)
33 posted on 09/28/2003 7:17:18 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Dixie and Texas Forever!)
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To: raggededge
Not so....

I and many others feel it would be disrespectful to fly the flag IN THAT CEREMONY.

Only because these men were fighting for their Confederate Nation, and it would be a slap in the face.
34 posted on 09/28/2003 7:20:06 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Dixie and Texas Forever!)
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To: wimpycat
In Texas we have a better solution....

GET A ROPE!
35 posted on 09/28/2003 7:21:20 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Dixie and Texas Forever!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; stainlessbanner; Ipse Dixit; billbears
Although I have had several conversations with Brian Hicks and Schuyler Kropf, I had missed the Steve Burt story. Thanks for the link!

Yes, sad to say, truly honorable behavior is a rare (and little-appreciated) commodity nowadays.

BTW, the Post & Courier's website used to have a fantastic chronological set of the reports of Hicks & Kropf -- covering from the discovery of the Hunley...to its raising...to day-to-day archeological discoveries as the interior of the Hunley was excavated in the Lasch Conservation Lab. Now, unfortunately, the link no longer works... :-(

IMHO, the moment when Maria reached into the clump of Dixon's clothing in the bottom bow of the Hunley... and came out with Dixon's "Queenie Bennet" lucky gold piece -- complete with its Shilo bullet dent -- in her hand... will forever be at the top of the list of "thrilling moments in archaeology"!

37 posted on 09/28/2003 8:24:39 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Welcome Home Brother...! (From the land of the "enemy" and the Kennedys)

Thank you kindly, Suh! '-}

(Can you even begin to imagine what a bummer it was to have "Chappaquiddick Teddie" as my Senator -- and "Bahney Fwank" as my Congressman...?)

38 posted on 09/28/2003 8:32:10 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: raggededge
There never was a Confederate Nation.

Moosake!!! Go study history before you put your ignorant hands to the keyboard again!!!

( Alternately...a Japanese alcoholic drink made from cow's milk...)

39 posted on 09/28/2003 8:39:30 PM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home in God's Gountry!!)
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To: billbears; Ipse Dixit
Gen. Sherman was an ancestor of mine.

dixit you are a sorry piece of garbage for writing those words.

America doesn't need you at all, creep.

40 posted on 09/28/2003 9:57:49 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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