New Chamber of Commerce Poll: Recall leading 53-41%, Arnold 35%, Cruz 31%, Tom 17%

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[ambrose]

New Chamber of Commerce Poll: Recall leading 53-41%, Arnold 35%, Cruz 31%, Tom 17%

[EternalVigilance]

Far LESS " juvenile ", than your purile,smarmy, HOLIER THAN THOU, visceral posts.

"Mom, HE started it!"

[BonnieJ]

You could ignore the vitrol. You're intelligent & well-read; mix that with a bit of diplomacy and you could be a persuasive leader.

[EternalVigilance]

I do most of the time. But I'm human and can't always resist temptation, you know? ;-)

And thank you. I receive that in the spirit it was given in.

[BonnieJ]

Excuse the typo..."vitriol"

[Texasforever]

If the rest of this race could be executed in that spirit, the results of the election should be almost exactly the results of the debate, politically speaking. Don't you think?

EV it will not calm down because whether people admit it or not, politics is a true religion to some and a sporting event to others. McClintock will change nothing in California even if he is elected and neither will Arnold. The same can be said for the entire country. Bush is excoriated for his "big spending ways". The sad fact is, that until the money runs out it will be spent and then they will borrow more to spend. It doesn't matter one iota if it is a conservative or a liberal other than the fact that a conservative will spend it slower. Big Government is here to stay until there is no more money to borrow.

[nopardons]

tsk, tsk, tsk .......................

You're proving just how juvenile you are; not, as you wrongly assume, anything at all about me. Just keep right on digging that hole and while you're at it,could you at least answer a few of my previously asked queries ?

[EternalVigilance]

Typos are the least of our problems right now. ;-)

[hotpotato]

z Schwarzenegger has decided to run even further left than Bustamante on many issues.

Which ones?

[Brandon]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. First, as others have pointed out, you can't compare polls from different polling companies; they are using different turnout models. Each polling company's numbers, looked at in isolation, have been pretty steady, and none of them (that I know of) have showed the majority (or even a plurality) supporting Davis.

As to these particular numbers, conventional wisdom is that undecideds break against the incumbent, which means that anytime an incumbent is below 50% just before the election, he's in big trouble. In this case, Davis is trailing 53-41, with 6% undecided. He would not just have to buck the usual pattern (where the majority of the undecideds wind up voting against the incumbent); he would have to pick up every last one of the undecideds, and somehow persuade at least 3% of those already planning to vote "yes" to change their minds. I'm not saying it can't happen; just that it's not the way to bet -- especially now that Schwarzenegger seems to have satisfied people by his debate appearance that he is fit to govern.

[EternalVigilance]

Well said. You're right.

[EternalVigilance]

What queries were those, nopardons?

[capitan_refugio]

I can see you haven't been attending any Dale Carnegie classes lately, have you?

[EternalVigilance]

Good analysis.

[nopardons]

Scroll. You chose to ignore them, now do the scut work.

[tallhappy]

OK. I only asked because if your were you'd have been able to read the newspwpers for the last monthsever since the recall was obviously going to go to a vote.

Your question about how one would know the dem strategy was very strange.

The whole thing has boiled down to a strategy of trying to tie Arnold to right wing extremism and Bush and pit that vs Davis.

The Republicans knew this and let it hamper them. Jim Brulte officially took no side or stance on recall just for this reason. Yet even with this the dems screamed how Brulte was corrdinating it on behalf of the Whitehouse.

Now Brulte has endorsed Schwarzenegger. The dem playbook has been manifested finally.

Will it fly? Hard to say. It worked well with Simon, but he was cheez whiz.

It's all very strange but I see it as a turf war more than a war between left and right.

[The Other Harry]

IF that is true, and I haven't seen even one such post, that would be as much a travesty as saying that Bustamante is preferable to Arnold.

Here's one:

I don't like RINO's. I detest them. If California wants a liberal as its governor, it should have Bustamonte.

My real choice would be Diane Fienstein. She isn't running, but I think she would actually be a good governor.

If the state wants to trash itself, let it go ahead.

[tallhappy]

Environment. Education.

[nopardons]

Oh, thank you for the enlightenment, sionce I've only read the articles, from California papers , posted to FR.

My conversations, with family & friends, didn't contain such info.

[EternalVigilance]

"It's all very strange but I see it as a turf war more than a war between left and right."
-tallhappy

That's my pick for quote of the day.

[EternalVigilance]

Scroll. You chose to ignore them, now do the scut work.

If you have a question, just ask it. It's 3:45 am here, and I'm going off to bed before I'm going to go rereading this whole thread. ;-)