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*Poll says McClintock could win 1-0n-1 matchup*
National Review (The Corner) ^ | 9/22/03 | Peter Robinson

Posted on 09/24/2003 7:54:23 AM PDT by TheBigB

Brother Hugh, some news.

John Eastman, a professor of law at Chapman University and a frequent guest on your radio program, has just brought to my attention a poll that will interest you. Commissioned by the Lincoln Club of Orange County, the poll includes the following results:

If Arnold Schwarzenegger found himself in a head-to-head race against Cruz Bustamante--that is, in effect, if Tom McClintock dropped out of the race--then Schwarzenegger would win, 44 to 37 percent.

But if Tom McClintock found himself in a head-to-head race against Cruz Bustamante--that is, in effect, if Schwarzenegger dropped out of the race--then McClintock would win, 42 to 40 percent.

From the beginning, Hugh, you have made a single argument against McClintock, insisting that he cannot win.

But he can.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cruz; mcclintock; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: autoresponder
Bet Arnold on the nose. He'll pay five cents on a two dollar wager.
281 posted on 09/24/2003 11:44:15 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: autoresponder
The only way you win with McClintock is to go to the $2 window and bet on him to "place"

To "show," more likely. Unfortunately.
282 posted on 09/24/2003 11:44:25 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: B Knotts
What would have been said here if nude photos of Clinton had surfaced? Seriously. Think about that.

Speaking for myself, I would have said, "Where's the bathroom? I'm going to lose my lunch!"

Bill Clinton was neither an actor nor a bodybuilder. He lived his entire life with the goal of becoming president. Complete ambition. Whenever he did anything that could torpedo his ambition, he scratched to cover it like a cat in a litter box.

Schwarzenegger has never hidden the fact of his nudity in "Terminator." He has not lived a political life.

BTW, do you remember all the Drudge headlines from 2000 about supposed photos of GWB nude, standing on a bar?

283 posted on 09/24/2003 11:47:05 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: B Knotts
BTW (and slightly OT): I read somewhere that Bush 41, along with many other folks who were students at elite colleges like Yale in the 1940s, were photographed unclothed for some wacko-sounding research project. Is this an urban legend? (It doesn't really relate to the Arnold photos, which clearly were understood by him to be meant for publication in an adult magazine.)
284 posted on 09/24/2003 11:47:21 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Sabertooth
>>>The folks now obsessing over the dead heat are among the same posters who've said for weeks that "McClintock can't win."

I don't place much credence in any polls, until it gets closer to E-Day. Having said that, this is the first poll (42%-40%) that shows McClintock just may have the votes to beat Bustamonte. A good sign for Tom's supporters and a bad sign for the Arnoldnauts.

285 posted on 09/24/2003 11:47:49 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: redlipstick
BTW, do you remember all the Drudge headlines from 2000 about supposed photos of GWB nude, standing on a bar?

ROFL

Musta missed that one.

286 posted on 09/24/2003 11:48:24 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: redlipstick
Speaking for myself, I would have said, "Where's the bathroom? I'm going to lose my lunch!"

Well, that's what I would hope most would think.

Such pictures would be a Crime Against Humanity.

287 posted on 09/24/2003 11:49:34 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: PhiKapMom
Was just told by a Freeper that is no longer the stance of the California Republican Party

Nonsense.

Senator Tom McClintock
Date: August 27, 1998
Publication Type: Speech or Statement

It was Tocqueville who said that it is the spirit of the law – not the form – that drive great events. So let us talk of the spirit of tribal sovereignty. We are all aware of the litany of broken promises, broken treaties, broken hearts and broken bodies that trace the history of the American and Californian Indian. Indian reservations were often chosen from among the least attractive land on this continent. Deserts, remote mountains – as far away from our sight, thoughts and conscience as geography permitted. It was little sacrifice on our part – as a society – to recognize the tribes as sovereign nations. It allowed us the luxury to practice benign neglect. And so the common denominator on these lands was simple and abject poverty.

Around Christmas time a few years ago, I visited with some of the tribal leaders in southern California. We had children about the same age, so we were talking about Christmas shopping, and favorite Christmases. And he told me about his favorite Christmas – one that has shone bright in his memory through all these years. One Christmas morning, under the tattered family Christmas tree was the greatest gift he had ever imagined. It literally gave him a whole new sense of pride and self worth and childhood joy. Under the Christmas tree was a brand new bicycle…seat. And his face lit up even then as he described it in the most minute detail. And then he said, you know, I realize how much my parents struggled – now that I can afford to buy my children a brand new bicycle.

Springing up on these remote reservations in the last few years is the indomitable spirit of the American Indian. Way out on these remote reservations, the tiny scrap of liberty they retained through tribal sovereignty has allowed them to kindle an economic recovery through recreational gaming.

But that embryo of enterprise now has grown into a little tiny mouse of competition to the giant casinos in Nevada. So they have come to this legislature to shut down the tribes. They do so with this sham compact – negotiated with a tribe that has no gaming enterprise and that is happy to accept severe restrictions on others in exchange for an unearned and undeserved share of the profits of the labors of others. They were subsequently joined by tribes coerced with threats of economic ruin or jail. Things haven’t changed very much in California in the last hundred years. We were perfectly satisfied to leave the Indians alone when they suffered silently in their isolation and poverty. But now that they are beginning to succeed and beginning to compete, we want to deny their sovereignty and strangle them.

My second point is one of simple liberty. The activity on these establishments is voluntary, it is consensual, it is contractual. I am always amazed at those in government who feel they are so good at running their own lives that they feel entitled to run everybody else’s. What grown-up adults in a free society want to do with their own time and their own money is their own business – not ours.

The old shibboleth of cheating and organized crime as been raised. The fact is that the most jealous guardian of a casino’s reputation is the casino itself. The mere wisp of a rumor of cheating or unfair practice sends customers flocking to competing establishments. And let me remind the members that the biggest drug laundering scheme in American history occurred right here in California, when a former Director of the Department of Finance laundered millions of drug cartel dollars not through a casino – but through a popular fast food franchise. If the sponsors were really serious about their concerns – they would be sponsoring a fast food compact.

The facts are quite simple. The Indians have developed a way to make the flinty, forsaken, isolated land to which they were banished, provide a livelihood, made possible by the one thing we left them after we had taken away everything else – their liberty. We are now acting to take away that liberty.

We are so good at condemning the decisions of our fathers when it comes to mistakes they made under the pressure of world war. Vote for this if you want – but ponder what will be said by your children in this chamber a generation hence. And you will then rightly know the true meaning of shame.


288 posted on 09/24/2003 11:49:51 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Great image, PRoLA. Congrats!
289 posted on 09/24/2003 11:50:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: pogo101
That, or the sudden publication of Arnie Porn or the like.

What do you mean? What do you consider "porn"?

Why would it need to be "the sudden publication" rather than whether he did this or not?

290 posted on 09/24/2003 11:51:35 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: B Knotts
Such pictures would be a Crime Against Humanity.

And any of Hillary! would be a weapon of mass destruction.

291 posted on 09/24/2003 11:51:39 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
And you're just as funny now as you ever were!
292 posted on 09/24/2003 11:55:40 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Mary, help!" - General Wesley Clark, presidential candidate)
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To: tallhappy
What do you mean? What do you consider "porn"?

To paraphrase my fellow native Ohioan Potter Stewart, I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it. But one aspect would have to be, uh, arousal being shown, and/or at least SOME sort(s) of interaction with another person. "Standing there nekkid" (and not aroused?) doesn't really qualify.

Why would it need to be "the sudden publication" rather than whether he did this or not?

Agreed. I am presuming, however, that the very proof that he "did this" necessarily would consist of publication of images documenting "this."
293 posted on 09/24/2003 11:55:41 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Roscoe
California's largest conservative organization, the California Republican Assembly

Did they find somebody to fund their newspaper?

294 posted on 09/24/2003 11:56:35 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
The California Republican Assembly have made $57,559 in independent expenditures for Tom's election so far.
295 posted on 09/24/2003 11:59:54 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: pogo101
ivy league nude photos
296 posted on 09/24/2003 12:03:08 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
And you're just as funny now as you ever were!

Thanks sweetheart. You are as cogent and logical as ever too.

297 posted on 09/24/2003 12:09:07 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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To: Cooter
Can't access it at work, but I take it from the URL that this IS an urban legend ... ?
298 posted on 09/24/2003 12:09:29 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
You are as cogent and logical as ever too.

As are you, Mrs. McClintock! LOL

299 posted on 09/24/2003 12:11:09 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Mary, help!" - General Wesley Clark, presidential candidate)
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To: pogo101
No, it is true. Here is an excerpt:
The procedure did seem strange. But I soon learned that it was a long-established custom at most Ivy League and Seven Sisters schools. George Bush, George Pataki, Brandon Tartikoff and Bob Woodward were required to do it at Yale. At Vassar, Meryl Streep; at Mount Holyoke, Wendy Wasserstein; at Wellesley, Hillary Rodham and Diane Sawyer. All of them -- whole generations of the cultural elite -- were asked to pose. But however much the colleges tried to make this bizarre procedure seem routine, its undeniable strangeness engendered a scurrilous strain of folklore.

300 posted on 09/24/2003 12:13:50 PM PDT by Cooter
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