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Hurricane Isabel Now Expected To Hit The United States
National Hurricane Center ^ | 9/14/03 | NHC

Posted on 09/14/2003 8:52:00 AM PDT by I_love_weather

Sorry for the caps...this is the way they post these things

THE MODELS ARE NOW IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT WITH ISABEL MAKING LANDFALL ALONG THE CENTRAL U.S. EAST COAST IN ABOUT 4 DAYS. THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY ON WHERE THE EXACT LANDFALL COULD OCCUR SINCE THE DEVELOPING CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH COULD DEEPEN AND DIG SOUTHWARD MORE THAN IS FORECAST BY THE GLOBAL MODELS...WHICH COULD LEAD A MORE NORTHWARD MOTION AND LANDFALL FARTHER UP THE EAST COAST THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY FORECAST. UNFORTUNATELY...ALL OF THE MODEL GUIDANCE AGREE ON A LARGE AND STRONG NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTED RIDGE REMAINING EAST OF ISABEL...WHICH SHOULD PREVENT THE POWERFUL HURRICANE FROM RECURVING OUT TO SEA. LANDFALL ALONG THE U.S MID-ATLANTIC COAST SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NORTH CAROLINA AND NEW JERSEY BETWEEN 4 OR 5 DAYS IS APPEARING MORE AND MORE LIKELY.

ONLY MINOR FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY ARE EXPECTED FOR THE NEXT 3 DAYS AS ISABEL IS FORECAST TO MOVE OVER SIGHTLY WARMER WATER AND REMAIN IN A FAVORABLE DOUBLE-OUTFLOW PATTERN. HOWEVER...BY 96 HOURS...ISABEL IS EXPECTED TO BE ACCELERATING NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD UNDER INCREASING SOUTHERLY UPPER-LEVEL FLOW. HOWEVER...ALL OF THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE CENTRAL CORE OF ISABEL REMAINING EAST OF THE STRONG JETSTREAM AND UNDER 20-25 KT 200 MB WIND. THIS WOULD TEND TO KEEP ISABEL STRONGER THAN WHAT THE SHIPS INTENSITY MODEL IS INDICATING...ESPECIALLY SINCE ISABEL WILL BE MOVING OVER THE WARM GULFSTREAM SOUTH OF THE NORTH CAROLINA OUTER BANKS AT THAT TIME. THEREFORE...LITTLE OR NO SIGNIFICANT WEAKENING IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR UNTIL AFTER LANDFALL OCCURS.

FORECASTER STEWART

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To: All
In case one hasn't been posted, I found a great site for tide tables: http://www.freetidetables.com/

As an example, here's the 3-month page for Ocean City, MD: http://www.dolphinkey.com/tidetables/data_text.php?tti=2866

Note that the high tides for Sept. 18 at that location are 1:04 am and 1:39 pm. This information is critical when considering storm surge. Those of you in the 'target area' may want to note these times for the station closest to you in case you are deciding whether to bail out or stay behind when the time comes to make that decision.

861 posted on 09/14/2003 8:30:35 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Pete Rose, but then he fell)
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To: FGR4U
Ha! I was in Baltimore for a hurricane that sort of fizzled in S La last year, Lafayette got it I think. My hubby was in Lousianan. The girls and I had a hurricane party and he missed it. We still chuckle.
862 posted on 09/14/2003 8:33:19 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Those of you in the 'target area' may want to note these times for the station closest to you in case you are deciding whether to bail out or stay behind when the time comes to make that decision.

Jeez, Louise, just get out now and come back later. Life is too short. You can't predict a hurricane.

Stay safe.

863 posted on 09/14/2003 8:33:19 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Never voted for a Democrat in my life.)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Note that the high tides for Sept. 18 at that location are 1:04 am and 1:39 pm.

NOAA has the center of circulation approaching OC MD, at 2 pm.

864 posted on 09/14/2003 8:34:47 PM PDT by OWK
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To: CobaltBlue
To those thinking of leaving, make your reservations now. We had a scare in New Orleans, and my daughter had to drive to Memphis to find a hotel room,,,they book up fast.
865 posted on 09/14/2003 8:35:31 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: OWK
When you have a projected 30-35 foot storm surge, I don't think the tides will matter that much.
866 posted on 09/14/2003 8:36:53 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Feeling my age, but wanting to feel older)
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To: U S Army EOD
My bigger worry is that all that water will funnel right up the Chesapeake.

You wanna talk about flooding....

867 posted on 09/14/2003 8:38:45 PM PDT by OWK
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To: CobaltBlue
Jeez, Louise, just get out now and come back later. Life is too short. You can't predict a hurricane.

I agree with you, but some people are stubborn, and not without reason. At least one person was concerned that if they left, they wouldn't be allowed back for days, during which time rain could damage the place or looting could occur.

When I look at some of these bays on the map, and consider a wall of water pushed ahead of a Cat 3 or Cat 4 hurricane, I can't figure where else the water would go other than up onto the land. Sounds like a bottleneck to me. Anybody out there know if any studies have been done about potential damage if a Cat 3/Cat 4 hurricane went straight into the Chesapeake Bay?

868 posted on 09/14/2003 8:38:56 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Pete Rose, but then he fell)
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To: meyer
Internal combustion engines apparently produce a large amount of CO in a hurry.

Particularly when cold, the catalytic converter hasn't heated up and its not doing anything. With a brand new car, in tune, you probably could run it when hot in a closed garage and not get poisoned (I wouldn't on general habit and principle).

Small internal combustion engines, in general, DO NOT have catalytic converters and emit far more CO for its one or two cylinders than 4+ cylinder automobiles...

I don't know if SheLion has some new type with a converter, but even if it did have one, before I utilized it I'd dry run it in the open with a CO meter held right in front of the exhaust and always have the meter handy.

870 posted on 09/14/2003 8:40:02 PM PDT by Axenolith (Watch it, you don't want to getcher tie caught in that fan be... GEEUURKK!)
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To: CobaltBlue
I'm set with enough propane for a month. About twenty of the small camp size bottles, a 5 gallon, an eight gallon, stoves and about 5 of those small, single mantle propane lights that screw on the tops of the bottles. In fact when I stir fry, I always cook with gas, my electric range is no good for good stir fry!

But I would recommend against open flame cooking if there is a possibility of things getting shook up, and that goes for using candles for lighting as well.
871 posted on 09/14/2003 8:40:23 PM PDT by djf
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To: cajungirl
"To those thinking of leaving, make your reservations now. We had a scare in New Orleans, and my daughter had to drive to Memphis to find a hotel room,,,they book up fast."

Yup. I say if you're gonna have to pay to go somewhere, shoot, zip everything up and go to Vegas for a few days.

872 posted on 09/14/2003 8:40:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Doncha think the NASCAR bunch might postpone the race if there's a CAT 5 storm headed their way?!

I expect that is exactly what they will do. The problem is that the fans have already begun their descent upon Dover.

On Friday, Saturday and Sunday of race weekend there are an additional 100,000 - 150,000 vehicles on the roads in a state that is only 100 miles long and 35 miles wide. That number doesn't include the 10,000 or so RV fans that started arriving last Friday for a week of partying and camping. Nor does that number include all the vehicles of the 800,000 residents, the tourists, shoppers and now the evacuees that will be coming from the the coastal areas of Maryland and Virginia.

If NASCAR doesn't can those races by Tuesday (Wednesday at the latest) and Izzy hits even as far south as Hatteras, NC on Thursday - there will be major catastrophe on the entire DelMarva Penninsula. If she tracks and hits Virginia Beach and then slides up the Chesapeake Bay - there is no telling how bad things could be.

In a situation like this storm, there are only 2 ways to get off the peninsula (which is just under 200 miles long) - Go west across the Chesapeake Bay to Baltimore/Washington or got north to NJ or PA. There is no going south.

873 posted on 09/14/2003 8:42:20 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: FGR4U
LOL...I note that when a hurricane is coming here, all the little cajun ladies are looking thru their freezers, cooking up roasts, getting ready to feed a crowd for a week. They are so cute the way they cook. I swear if a nuclear war was scheduled for wednesday, they would spend Tuesday cooking just in case.
874 posted on 09/14/2003 8:43:01 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: FGR4U
Lol! I bust a gut over that show!
877 posted on 09/14/2003 8:44:31 PM PDT by djf
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To: Gabz
In a situation like this storm, there are only 2 ways to get off the peninsula (which is just under 200 miles long) - Go west across the Chesapeake Bay to Baltimore/Washington or got north to NJ or PA. There is no going south.

And the Bay Bridge will close relatively early as the winds pick up.

878 posted on 09/14/2003 8:44:31 PM PDT by OWK
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Anybody out there know if any studies have been done about potential damage if a Cat 3/Cat 4 hurricane went straight into the Chesapeake Bay?

To my knowledge it has never actually happened. Don't know about studies, but common sense says it would be a mess, no? I still remember Floyd in '99. It was a mere tropical storm by the time it got here (I live 20 minutes south of Baltimore, a few miles from the bay) but still brought considerable rain and flooding. Schools closed for a bit as I recall. A Category 5 right up the Chesapeake. Fun stuff.

879 posted on 09/14/2003 8:45:07 PM PDT by ForOurFuture
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