Schwarznegger Gets 34% of Uberroth Votes..McClintock 21% (New Afternoon CA. Poll Number-Crunching)

Sacremento Bee Political Insider ^ | September 9, 2003 | Dan Weintraub

[meg70]

In a long and very interesting poll pubished today by the California Chamber of Commerce, (which has endorsed Arnold, and bits have been excerpted to the media) Uberroth backers were asked who they would support if he withdrew.

This is what they said: Schwarzenegger 34%, McClintock 21%, Bustamante 23%.

[Texas_Dawg]

Thank you for showing how you really feel about conservatism.

I'm every bit as conservative as you or anyone on this forum is. I'm just not a ranting idiot who would rather let every Communist in the world beat them in elections so I could run off to my bunker and put my tin foil on my head and tell everyone I told them so. Most of the McClintock supporters on FR very much want Bustamante to be the next governor.

[ConservativeStandUP]

McClintock, wasn't he the character Andy Griffith played in the 1980's, the small town lawyer who wore a white suit?
It was a big hit with the elderly.

[A Broken Glass Republican]

It also stands for those so called Republicans who REFUSE to support the Republican in the race if they don't get EVERYTHING they want.

I've seen a number of RINO McClintock supporters who have stated they won't vote for Arnold if McClintock drops-out. But I haven't seen a single Arnold supporter say they wouldn't support McClintock if Arnold dropped out.

[Bob]

Does it really mean anything if you support 100% of the GOP charter when you will never, ever, ever win a statewide election in your life?

100%?? Heck, at this point, I'd probably be willing to settle for 20%. I haven't even seen that much. Opposition to Prop 54 sure didn't help.

[dangus]

I hate to say it, but Arnold has one huge advantage over Bustamante:

Everyone knows "Schwartzenegger" is running. It's even easy to find, being the longest name. But do you realize that 70% of Demonrats can't even name ONE primary contestant?

And, apologies to Californians here... YOu guys are the exceptions to the rule, as your presence indicates... But Californians are the most politically ignorant people in the U.S.

These polls are skewed because they usually list the names for the voters. How many voters do you think will be able to remember that "Bustamante" is the leading Democrat, and find him in a list of 135 names?

Frankly, John Jacobsjingleheimerschmidt (easy to spot) would probably run neck and neck with Bugs Bunny (easy to remember) in the polls if they could both run.

[Texas_Dawg]

100%?? Heck, at this point, I'd probably be willing to settle for 20%. I haven't even seen that much. Opposition to Prop 54 sure didn't help.

Wouldn't 1% be better than 0%?

[republicanwizard]

"And you go on enjoying your Michael Bloomberg."

You will gladly go on enjoying my Michael Bloomberg and so will I. Bloomberg gets an A+ in my book on crime, and a poll out today has him with a 60% approval rating on this subject. Considering the economic conditions of the city, this is a very reputable number. On education, Bloomberg has done what even Giuliani couldn't do-take control of the school system.

Bloomberg, unlike California, was faced with a city whose economy was reeling. The budget deficit was neither his fault nor Rudy's. He did the best he could and kept the city safe. So, in return, my vacation was spent in New York City chiping in for the local economy which will help Bloomy in the long run. I long for the day when I live in NYC.

Instead of being a bunch of purist losers in CA, you should get with it and understand that a Republican doesn't have to agree with you on every issue. You should understand that he doesn't have to 100% conform to YOUR views. Instead of taking 70% of a Republican, you insist on 100% of a conservative. How stupid!

No wonder every state in the country has a Republican controlling something except your stupid state. Go ahead purists. Who's the TRUE CONSERVATIVE?

[SunStar]

It also stands for those so called Republicans who REFUSE to support the Republican in the race if they don't get EVERYTHING they want.

Uh huh... Well, that's a new one. I guess it's a good way to excuse supporting a candidate who can't even support the 2nd Amendment.

Arnold is pro-abortion, pro-gay special rights (including adoption), anti-2nd Amendment, and refuses to support the Racial Privacy Initative, a conservative proposal that is on the same ballot as the recall!

It's time to stand up for conservatism. I pledge to do so.

[Bob]

Wouldn't 1% be better than 0%?

Yeah, you're right.

In fact, that's a great idea for a campaign slogan: "Vote for me. Vote for the electable 1% Republican."

[pogo101]

That could technically be a problem inasmuch as McClintock (correctly IMO) doesn't have an affirmative "jobs program." His "program" is simply to downsize government, and the taxes needed to sustain it, dramatically, along with such not-taxes-but-burdens-nevertheless as Workers Comp. Then businesses and entrepreneurs will come and stay. Apparently Ueberroth wants something more interventionist, perhaps with a name and a title, "Office of Jobs Creation." :P

[dangus]

But don't think that this means in a head-to-head, Schwartenegger would win and McClintock would lose. McClintock would have a much better chance of being known if he were THE Republican candidate... Of course, the media could fire all their cannons at him.

[SunStar]

Instead of taking 70% of a Republican, you insist on 100% of a conservative.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is NOT 70% conservative... More like 15%.

[pogo101]

Well, Sowell "supports" Schwarzenegger in a rather limited, if important, sense. He wrote that McClintock has the better positions but likely cannot win, even in the plurality-winner recall scenario ... and hence he (Sowell) will hold his nose, vote Arnold, and "hope for the best."

(I agree with him.)

I'm just saying that's pretty tepid support.

[ambrose]

What is so "confusing" about 133 names on the ballot? Or even 1000 names? Just vote for the one you are in favor of...

[PuNcH]

Wouldn't 1% be better than 0%?

Not enough to get me out of bed. I dont think you can be a conservative by 1%. I'm not sure why Arnold is a republican at all. It is too bad. He would have been an interesting character. There is nothing there.

[Tribune7]

Arnold is pro-abortion, pro-gay special rights (including adoption), anti-2nd Amendment, and refuses to support the Racial Privacy Initative, a conservative proposal that is on the same ballot as the recall!

OTOH, he has the backing of Milt Friedman who is the smartest man in America. If I were a Californian, I would wait until it appeared absolutely impossible for McClintock -- whom I like and agree with on the big issues-- to pull it out and after voting to dump Davis, I would hold my nose and vote for Arnold.

If I had to send my absentee ballot in right now, I would vote for Arnold.

[pogo101]

Arnold Schwarzenegger is NOT 70% conservative... More like 15%.

Do I hear 60%? (No! 25%!) Do I hear 50%? (No! 30%!)

[ambrose]

California conservatives have had every chance in the world to get a better governor than what they have and they have blown it time and time again.

You people have short memories. You act as if CA hasn't had a Republican governor in over 40 years. Try 5 years.

[republicanwizard]

I said 70% Republican. I don't care how "conservative" he is. He is conservative enough to count as 70% of a Republican. He is a lot like George Pataki, and that is good enough for New York which is a far greater state than yours currently in my book.

[pogo101]

I'm jumping with two parachutes (and not sending in my absentee until later) due to two contingencies:

1. What if Arnold gaffes, or if some truly bad dirt comes out on him, esp. pretty late?
2. What if McClintock gaffes or some dirt comes out on HIM? (Both VERY unlikely for McC, IMO.)

For now, I need each as a fallback for the other.