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To: nobdysfool
What part of "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree" is unclear to you?

If the banker bears our debt in his wallet, is the lienholder anxious to receive the cash from within the wallet or is it the wallet without the cash itself that the lienholder forgives the debt? There are passages regarding the indwelling, the spirit, and things eternal which are more pertinent. There is also significance in the blood in sealing the New Covenant but more closely associated with the Eucharist.

267 posted on 09/02/2003 7:58:26 PM PDT by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: Cvengr; lockeliberty; CCWoody; Dr. Eckleburg; drstevej; Wrigley; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; CARepubGal; ..
If the banker bears our debt in his wallet, is the lienholder anxious to receive the cash from within the wallet or is it the wallet without the cash itself that the lienholder forgives the debt?

Doesn't apply. Not a good analogy at all. Next...

There are passages regarding the indwelling, the spirit, and things eternal which are more pertinent. There is also significance in the blood in sealing the New Covenant but more closely associated with the Eucharist.

And what does the Lord's supper signify? The shedding of His blood and the brokenness of His body, for us. From the beginning, sin has been covered with shed blood. Two animals had to die for God to provide skins to cloth Adam and Eve. Blood was shed. All through the OT, blood was shed in sacrifice for sin, culminating in the antetype of those sacrifices, the crucifixion of Jesus. In reality, the OT sacrifices were the shadow, the symbolic sacrifices, of which the crucifixion of Christ was the REAL sacrifice. The OT sacrifices could only cover sin. Christ's physical death and shed Blood actually wiped out, destroyed, and did away with the sins of those whom He died for. It wasn't His Spirit that died, it was His flesh and blood body, which was resurrected 3 days later as a glorified flesh and bone body, incorruptible and perfect, but retaining the wounds of His crucifixion, as a testimony for all time and eternity of the sacrifice He made.

You are trying to make this "mystical" and "spiritual" as though that somehow were more "scriptural". It's not. It was Jesus Christ's physical death and shedding of His Blood that paid for the sins of His Elect people. Paid in full, I might add. Anything other than that is heresy, against scripture, and will result in damnation.

269 posted on 09/02/2003 8:18:35 PM PDT by nobdysfool (All men are born Arminians...the Christian ones that grow up become Calvinists...)
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To: Cvengr; nobodysfool
Are you sure you are Christian Cvenger? You sound a lot more like gollum or Illbay.
272 posted on 09/02/2003 8:26:13 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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