"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More

Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | Mark Tooley

[Happy2BMe]

"I quoted Biblical scripture against homosexuality."

Don't look now, but I predict it will be against the law to even preach the book of Romans in churches in America concerning the damnation of homosexuality.

It is already against the law to preach against homosexuality in Canada!!!!

Fact.

[unspun]

They'll have to start a new religion. Christianity is already 100% anti-homosexuality and will never change.

[xzins]

see #95

[xzins]

An enemy planted weeds amongst the wheat.

[mugsy]

Libertarian free will used to justify autonomous human behavior. The Creator of the universe finds their behavior to be an abomination. Do they care? No. They create an idol in their own image instead of submitting to the revelation of God.

I think the word you're looking for is libertine, not libertarian. While some libertarians are libertine, and some libertines are libertarians, libertarians are not necessarily libertine or condone immoral behavior. I know what you're trying to say, though, and agree with you. These people are disgusting.

[TheAngryClam]

They did, but there was not really a hierarchy.

Consider the Paul/James rift over the status of gentile converts.

[N3WBI3]

None is saying anything about Jail:

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything."

Is this quote wrong? Have not the Homosexuals now that they have normalized their behavior (look at TV, like the MTV awards) began pushing multi partner relationship, and any other relationships not just on society but also on our churches?

Most christians dont care what they do in their own bedroom (aside from feeling sorry they live in sin) but most homosexuals care what we do in our churches..

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[xzins]

We're in post-moral America ... one that can't last long without a national revival that will return to us, as a people, our moral compass

The official state line is that "God" can only be legitimately viewed in the public square as an historic or ficticious character.

One Day He's Coming.

[mugsy]

Libertarian Christian is an extremely difficult balance. It's virtually impossible to be consistent, imho.

Which New Testament teaching is inconsistent with libertarian political philosophy? I'm assuming that like many folks, you equate a lack of government coercion with the condoning of a particular behavior. If so, that does not compute.

[xzins]

Was it Chap 15 Acts where they came together and issued a joint resolution to the churches?

[WorkingClassFilth]

What about the poor quadro-sexuals? I mean, don't these good church goers care about the feelings of those that love men, women, animals, plants and their Vita-Mix? Oh, the crosses some must bear...

[EdReform]

"The Rev. Troy Perry, founder of the predominantly homosexual Metropolitan Community Churches..."

Sex, torture and erotic electrification in America's 'gay' churches - The Metropolitan Community Church

[xzins]

Drugs is an extremely difficult balance.

We can't just say that everyone should be allowed to do what they want.

[xzins]

:>)

Vita-mix..... LOL.

[Zack Nguyen]

Amen.

[Jorge]

Personally, I do believe in the state legislatures having authority to establish quarantine laws and behavior laws when the issue is individual or public health.
It is a good thing to outlaw prostitution. There's really no significant difference between that and outlawing male to male and female to female sex.

Only problem is that "female to female sex" has a lower incidence of AIDS and other STDs than most other forms of sexual conduct.

So that blows the argument that the legislature has the right to outlaw homosexuality for public health risks.

Let's face it. Americans are not going to put up with a Govt that decides it is going to become the sex police and regulate what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

[Servant of the Nine]

Okay, so now what are we going to do?

Grease up and enjoy it?

Seriously, if we let the pecksniffs make the determination they will make everything but straight sex (no foreplay) in the missionary position in the dark with your clothes on with your legal spouse during a time when conception is likely a sin and preferably a crime.

Face it, most people don't really care. They go to church, or say they do, because they say they believe, but actually, they go because their family always did, or because they are lawyers or doctors or salesmen and want to make business contacts, or want to meet young girls and boys while pretending to teach Sunday School.
If there were more than 10% actual believers in churches today y'all wouldn't have these problems. They would just simply never come up.

SO9

[xzins]

Average age of death for those who practice female-to-female sex is 48.

Something is terribly wrong.

However, you miss the point. I didn't say the legislature MUST control these things. I said the legislature SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION of controlling these things WHEN they become a danger.

Just because two adults are behind closed doors doesn't mean there aren't potential problems. Again, prostitution is an excellent example.

[mugsy]

That proclivity for behavior that infects partners and spreads disease who knows where is just the reason for controlling sodomy.

While I agree that sodomy is evil, how can we control this deviant behavior? Are we going to send the sodomizers to prison? How are we going to enforce the sodomy laws? Are we going to send out people in black shirts to peep through bedroom windows?

You can't control sodomy. You can only do what we're doing here: remind people that it's a sick, destructive and unnatural behavior.

Sodomizers hurt each other and in rare cases those who have normal sex with them. This is almost always a crime people commit against their own bodies, and therefore the government shouldn't waste its time trying to eradicate this behavior. Government has no business promoting it either. The only time sodomy should be a public issue is when there's coercion involved (e.g. a boy gets anally raped by a priest).