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Golf and its Growing Popularity
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Posted on 08/29/2003 10:42:38 AM PDT by robjna

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To: Phantom Lord
The older ones like mine are the exception I guess. 101 this year.
101 posted on 08/29/2003 12:22:08 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: SoothingDave
How far is it across?

There is no doubt that Daly is one of the longest hitters on tour. But if he were to ever try his hand on the Long Drive Tour he would get his ass kicked. Hell, last year at the RE/Max World Long Drive Championship he went up against 10 amatuers and LOST to 7 of them! It was the Pinnacle Distance Challenge.

102 posted on 08/29/2003 12:22:29 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Protagoras
Golf courses were a rarity 100 years ago in America.
103 posted on 08/29/2003 12:23:08 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Protagoras
I play because it is challenging and good exercise. I estimate I walk at least 5 miles pulling my cart during 18 holes.
104 posted on 08/29/2003 12:25:38 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Phantom Lord
Maybe the new ones are all like that, but I'm under the impression that most country clubs here in the Northeast are "stand-alone" golf courses.
105 posted on 08/29/2003 12:25:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Phantom Lord
Golf courses were a rarity 100 years ago in America.

Yep, so it's kinda nice to belong to one of 'em. And some of the best are that old too.

106 posted on 08/29/2003 12:25:45 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Phantom Lord
It has been shown over and over that the presence of a pro sports team in a town does not provide a net gain in tax revenue for the city.

Perhaps, but you're dealing with far too many intangibles to defintively say it has no benefit.

107 posted on 08/29/2003 12:26:15 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Grando Calrissian

There are plenty of public golf courses that don't turn a profit and are propped up by the City that operates them.

Isn't that essentially what I originally said?

But actually, I think you're spot-on in one regard....now that I think about it.  Most Muni's were built 30-80 years ago....usually when the city was relatively small and there are still open tracts of cheap land.

To build a Muni in a major city these days would probably be pretty financially stupid.  The cost of the land alone would would be absurd.  Stadiums are much more logical choices.  Even if it doesn't turn a profit, it's far more likely to.



108 posted on 08/29/2003 12:26:28 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: PhilipFreneau
I estimate I walk at least 5 miles pulling my cart during 18 holes.

You need to hit it straighter. :^}

109 posted on 08/29/2003 12:26:57 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Phantom Lord
How far is it across?

Not very. Maybe 500 yards.

SD

110 posted on 08/29/2003 12:27:50 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Stadiums are much more logical choices. Even if it doesn't turn a profit, it's far more likely to.

A more logical choice would be for government to stay out of the entertainment business altogether.

111 posted on 08/29/2003 12:28:44 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Phantom Lord
But there isnt a single stadium that runs a profit for the government.

True, but that's because no city 100% operates a stadium facility the same way it operates a golf course.

112 posted on 08/29/2003 12:28:49 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: Phantom Lord
Baltusrol in New Jersey was opened in 1895. The existing clubhouse was built in 1912.

I suspect most of these old country clubs catered to Northeastern railroad money back in the early decades of the 20th Century.

113 posted on 08/29/2003 12:29:52 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: SoothingDave
Its gotta be less than 500 yards. Daly couldnt hit it that far no matter how many times he tried. He has trouble getting it past 350 when he has 6 tries and only has to get 1 in play. That is why he was beat by a bunch of amatuers in a long drive contest last year.
114 posted on 08/29/2003 12:30:35 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Isn't that essentially what I originally said?

Probably. Its hard to work and post at the same time.

115 posted on 08/29/2003 12:30:45 PM PDT by Grando Calrissian
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To: PhilipFreneau
Unless you are playing a very short course and hit every shot straight, you are walking far more than 5 miles. A 7,000 yard course is 4.35 miles and that is measured in perfectly staight and level distances and doesnt measure distance between tees. You go up, down, and sideways in your adventures on the course. I would put you at over 6 miles when all is said and done.
116 posted on 08/29/2003 12:32:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Grando Calrissian
No where have I said it has no benefits.
117 posted on 08/29/2003 12:33:27 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: PhilipFreneau
I love golf.

Ever since I learned what I was doing wrong.

I was standing too close to the ball.

After I hit it.
118 posted on 08/29/2003 12:33:41 PM PDT by whizkid (If I had known I was going to live this long, I would of taken better care of myself.)
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To: Phantom Lord
My longest drive was approximately 650 yards. The fact that I duck-hooked it onto a runway at Maxwell Airforce Base in Alabama helped me more than the wind. It ended up well ob.
119 posted on 08/29/2003 12:33:56 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Protagoras
>> I estimate I walk at least 5 miles pulling my cart during 18 holes.

LOL. Sometimes I agree. But when you figure a 6800 yard course is nearly 4 miles (at 1720 yards per mile), and you have to walk from the greens to the next tee (sometimes long distances, depending on the course layout), you would walk nearly 5 miles if you hit every shot straight as an arrow.
120 posted on 08/29/2003 12:34:23 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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