Posted on 08/28/2003 8:50:50 PM PDT by xzins
Those Ministers Who Say Judge Moore Acted Improperly Need To Tear Daniel Chapter Six Out Of Their Bibles!
By Chuck Baldwin
Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon August 29, 2003 I have listened to minister after minister publicly rebuke Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore saying, as a Christian, he should have obeyed federal judge Myron Thompson's unlawful order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama Judicial Building. Those ministers need to reread Daniel chapter six.
Daniel was a government official in the court of King Darius. In fact, Daniel was the second-in-command answering only to the king. Yet, when Darius issued his command that everyone in the kingdom not pray to God for thirty days, Daniel openly and defiantly disobeyed.
I've heard ministers say Judge Moore was wrong not to take down the monument and wait for his appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court to be decided. However, if this logic would have prevailed in the mind and heart of Daniel, the great story of Daniel in the lion's den would not appear in Scripture. After all, Darius' order against prayer was only for thirty days. Using the logic of today's ministers, Daniel should have merely suspended his prayers for thirty days, and everything would have been all right.
Instead, Daniel immediately went home, threw open his windows, and prayed to God as he always had done. He would not postpone his convictions for even thirty days!
Like Judge Roy Moore, Daniel believed that there is a higher authority than the king. Furthermore, he believed that human governments do not have the right to interfere with religious conscience, in or out of the public square.
Also take into account that Daniel lived under a monarchy. Darius' word was the law of the land. However, Americans do not live (yet) under a monarchy. A federal judge is not king; his word is not automatically law. Under our constitutional republic, whenever a federal judge, or any other government official, rules outside his constitutional authority, his ruling must be considered unlawful and irrelevant.
When Daniel disobeyed the law of King Darius, he had only the law of moral conscience behind him. Judge Moore has, not only the law of moral conscience, but the supreme law of the land (the U.S. Constitution) behind him!
Of all people, Christian ministers should flock to Judge Moore's assistance! That they aren't proves they are either ignorant of the lawlessness of this federal judge's actions, or they do not have the courage of their convictions.
One thing is sure: those ministers who condemn Judge Roy Moore's actions should tear the story of Daniel out of their Bibles, and never teach it again. If Daniel was right, Roy Moore is right!
© Chuck Baldwin
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I'm convinced that Moore wanted to use the straight forward argument that no religion was established AND that the Alabama constitution says that Almighty God is the ultimate authority.
This is the most important argument BECAUSE it's "in their face" about the conflict being brought about in our society due to Federal imposition of the religion of "non-religion."
I also like the "free expression" argument. (Since he's charged with decorating the building, he can hang up whatever he wants according to his tastes in art.)
I like the "historical display" argument.
They should use all of them.
And guess who owns all? God! God owns whatever you, I or Caesar has. Most people miss that.
Of course you are right. People today don't know what is written let alone apply it.
Martyrs are not for todays mind set. Today you are to be a "moderate" and figure out a way to compromise core beliefs. When you do this you have invalidated your core beliefs. So why be suprised when people fail to stand up for anything? This is why the A.C.L.U. and other godless groups make progress. People are only to eager to appease their opposition.
But we have Bethel, Lebanon, Mount Carmel, etc. nearby.
I have to respectfully disagree. Similar effects do not prove equal authority. I can spank your kids just as easily as you can; the difference is I have no authority to do so.
Not for long.
Citation please?
The bottom line question, of course, is: What religion has been established?
No, I want a nation where the branches of government keep to within their respective mandates as enumerated in the document that gives those mandates.
Also, if a city has a stadium that is used by a team with the name of Angels, and "angels" is written on the side of the publicly owned building, how much more likely is it to have that Name sued than if the name were "Demons."
The Ten Commandments are not a "religion". to require that people accept Jesus as their Savior as in the Crusades or the Inquisition is clearly not Christian and would violate the church and state separation.
We purposely have no state dictated religion. People can for the most part believe what they want however First Amendment Rights allow for the sullying on ones beliefs. Christianity is a popular taget.
The whole idea behind the Judeo Christian roots, WAS to keep Judeo Christian principles IN government but keep government OUT of religion. For example, George Bush's faith based initiative IS a violation of the separation of church and state since it COERCES citizens through tax dollars fund beliefs of others. I'm not interested in funding Muslims or Hindu's. Yet under the faith based initiative the government could NOT descriminate against these religions.
The Ten Cammandments are of historical value in the it illustrates what our laws are based on. There is certainly nothing wrong with that. For those that are Christians it is a nice gesture to share this.
That's a fraud on the Republic. Only the legislative branch has been given the power to make laws.
You're making an idiotic assertion. Where is the authority for that supposedly coming from? Cite it please.
Why are you so intolerant, anti-Christian, and so ignorant of U.S. history?
Why are you so intolerant, anti-Christian, and so ignorant of U.S. history? More importantly why does God bug you? CLearly you want NO reference made to Him. Why? And don't give me this separation of church and state crap.
Should our next President swear in on the Koran? Should we wipe out "In God We Trust" off our currency? Should we elminate NUMEROUS references to the Judeo Christian God throughout our history?
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