Posted on 08/28/2003 8:50:50 PM PDT by xzins
Those Ministers Who Say Judge Moore Acted Improperly Need To Tear Daniel Chapter Six Out Of Their Bibles!
By Chuck Baldwin
Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon August 29, 2003 I have listened to minister after minister publicly rebuke Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore saying, as a Christian, he should have obeyed federal judge Myron Thompson's unlawful order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama Judicial Building. Those ministers need to reread Daniel chapter six.
Daniel was a government official in the court of King Darius. In fact, Daniel was the second-in-command answering only to the king. Yet, when Darius issued his command that everyone in the kingdom not pray to God for thirty days, Daniel openly and defiantly disobeyed.
I've heard ministers say Judge Moore was wrong not to take down the monument and wait for his appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court to be decided. However, if this logic would have prevailed in the mind and heart of Daniel, the great story of Daniel in the lion's den would not appear in Scripture. After all, Darius' order against prayer was only for thirty days. Using the logic of today's ministers, Daniel should have merely suspended his prayers for thirty days, and everything would have been all right.
Instead, Daniel immediately went home, threw open his windows, and prayed to God as he always had done. He would not postpone his convictions for even thirty days!
Like Judge Roy Moore, Daniel believed that there is a higher authority than the king. Furthermore, he believed that human governments do not have the right to interfere with religious conscience, in or out of the public square.
Also take into account that Daniel lived under a monarchy. Darius' word was the law of the land. However, Americans do not live (yet) under a monarchy. A federal judge is not king; his word is not automatically law. Under our constitutional republic, whenever a federal judge, or any other government official, rules outside his constitutional authority, his ruling must be considered unlawful and irrelevant.
When Daniel disobeyed the law of King Darius, he had only the law of moral conscience behind him. Judge Moore has, not only the law of moral conscience, but the supreme law of the land (the U.S. Constitution) behind him!
Of all people, Christian ministers should flock to Judge Moore's assistance! That they aren't proves they are either ignorant of the lawlessness of this federal judge's actions, or they do not have the courage of their convictions.
One thing is sure: those ministers who condemn Judge Roy Moore's actions should tear the story of Daniel out of their Bibles, and never teach it again. If Daniel was right, Roy Moore is right!
© Chuck Baldwin
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1. Was a religion established?
2. Did Judge Moore have responsibility for the interior of the CourtHouse?
3. Was there a developmental history element to the messages on the monument?
They are the issues. You can accept that or not.
As an aftermath, there is the issue: When do we disobey an unlawful order?
Would you say that if he was a Muslim and wanted to display 2 ton replica of the Quran in place of the 10 commandments?
Sorry, but I don't think so.
What he violated is a Constitutional principle, which is bigger than any one law.
No religion established.
I don't worry a lot about it because it's just a decoration.
For what it's worth, there's a snowball's chance in hell that a Muslim's gonna get himself elected Chief Justice of ALABAMA, one of the most Baptist places on the face of this planet. THE reason that Roy Moore won the last time around.
(Aside Question: If he's removed, can he then RUN again for election and reclaim his job? Anyone know?)
I'll give you a clue. It's the religion Judge Moore claims to believe in.
Yes...I'm sure all of Judge Moore's defenders would say the exact same thing about a 2 ton replica of the Quran in the court house. Too funny!
I disagree. I think a replica of Buddha or any other figure representing another religion in the court house would draw all kinds of protests.
Hey, one guy actually told the movers "Get your hands of my God!"
And which one is that?
I think you misunderstood my response. I was being sarcastic.
I saw that. The idea that Judge Moore's defenders are not embarrassed by these absurd distortions of Christian conviction tells us a lot.
I guess these are the same people who pray to statues of Mary.
This guy did. I've run into folks like him when I was stationed in the South.
The guy was either a plant by the media for a little sensationalism, or he was personally deficient, a man who had brought a sickness into his religion.
Or he was a product of the Crouchs' catechesis on TBN. Unitarian theology is close to God's Truth than those two are.
There is NO/ZERO/NADA Christian church that I've EVER heard of that teaches that a rock is God.
The "health and wealth Gospel" is almost as big a heresy as teaching that a rock is God.
Bottom line: Moore blew it bigtime on this one. He formulated his arguments in a fashion that guaranteed he'd lose. He's a judge, supposedly with excellent understanding of the Constitution and the case law, so I can't let him use the "I'm an ignorant dimwit" excuse. He turned down expert help from all quarters that would have gotten him the win, including the state AG. Ergo, his goal was to lose.
The question is...
Why would he want to lose?
The answer can be found by answering this question:
What has he actually done here?
He has generated a huge spectacle starring...himself.
It's pure political theater, on a par with Huey Long's.
I'm surprised you wouldn't find this offensive. I would. And I bet most of Judge Moore's defenders on this board would.
So now since you've decided that there's an established religion in Alabama, you can point us to where everyone is required to sign up. The name of this religion? How about the "Great Mystery of the Transcendental M." ROTFLOL!!
We're sure to find that in the phone book!
And which one is that?
Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what?
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