Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[kimmie7]

Very good point re: the amnesia!

[Deo volente]

Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation.

Here's their "Contact" page. You can send a request for him to help, and get a copy sent to your Email address. Mr. Reeve would like to hear this comment of Mr. Felos, I'm sure:

"The litmus test is whether or not a person can bring a spoon to their mouth."

If that doesn't get his attention, I don't know what will!

http://www.christopherreeve.org/feedback/feedback.cfm

Best to indicate "URGENT" in your Email subject line. These groups get tons of Emails, and yours might get noticed faster this way.

[Ohioan from Florida]

I think the hearing starts at 3:00 p.m. That's what I found from my earlier post. Someone else might be able to verify, because that was at least second-hand info.

Praying for you and your friend (and grandma!). It's been a busy weekend, hasn't it?!! Here's to another heavy-duty day tomorrow, gang!!

[Robert Drobot]

What are the over seven hundred FReepers doing for Terri?

Have they been active, and simply to modest to share their efforts?

Are they aware of the Terri threads? Do any of the Florida FReepers golf with any of the Florida 'establishment'?

They are ground zero for the euthanasia/death by decree 'system' in Florida. So where are they? What are they doing to stop the murder of a woman who will be put to death because she is unable to lift a spoon to her mouth?

Heeeeeeellllllloooooooo FLORIDA !!!

Answer the call.
It could be YOU who needs FR in your corner any day soon.

[Robert Drobot]

The consistent problem with medical journals/reports/findings is they are generalizations. The word 'may' is sprinkled very generously throughout their conclusions, because they are not conclusive, and can not be. A simple reminder to all medical researchers and practitioners who are a legend in their own minds - He is the final arbiter of life and death; health and disease.

Michael knows this, and he walks the path of a hunter who diligently covers his tracks.

[Robert Drobot]

pc93, your suggestion to freeparoundtheclock that he or she seek support from actor Steve Reeves is a great idea!!!

freeparoundtheclock, Perhaps the Schindler-Schiavo Foundation though their Media Volunteer, Pamela F. Hennessy ( www.terrisfight.org )has made an effort to enlist Reeves in the past without success.

Even if this is the case, and you do have the time, I would urge you to proceed with the sense of urgency now surrounding Terri.

If this is a new effort for you phenn, a broadside from both freeparoundtheclock and yourself might be just the push that could make this happen.

[Deo volente]

Just sent an Email to Christopher Reeve, through his foundation.
Contact page is above at Post #3762.

I can't find a personal Email address for him, just the foundation address, but I requested that it be delivered directly to him.

He's sure to be repelled by Felos' awful talk of the "litmus test" being "whether a person can put a spoon to their mouth". Christopher Reeve would not pass that test!

If Terri could get him in her corner, the fight would be over quickly, I would think.

[Robert Drobot]

Strengthened but far from over. The darkside promoting Terri's murder is equivalent to climbing McKinley. Not impossible if you recognize the correct approach, know what your doing, and don't lead an expedition designed to fail.

[Robert Drobot]

Strengthened but far from over. The darkside promoting Terri's murder is equivalent to climbing McKinley. Not impossible if you recognize the correct approach, know what your doing, and don't lead an expedition designed to fail.

[trustandobey]

I'm in for Terri. Fasting and prayer bump.

[Deo volente]

I CAN'T SLEEP!

I can't get your post #3709 out of my mind.

Do the lawyers know about this case? Is it applicable to Terri's situation, regarding the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) ??

This is from the latest WorldNetDaily article:

When Greer asked if he shouldn't schedule the day for
removing the feeding tube, Bachman told him to "go
right ahead and issue it. But issue it at a date SO
FAR INTO THE FUTURE that Terri has at least had a
chance to learn to be able to eat. Let her eat. Under
the law you have no right to keep her from eating."

Under the law, the state of New York had no right to prevent Marilyn Bartlett from taking the Bar Exam. THEY HAD TO ACCOMMODATE HER DISABILITY. Of course, it only took her two extra days to complete the exam. The amount of time was not the issue, however. Under the
FEDERAL law (ADA), the state of Florida has to give Terri time to learn how to eat. However long it takes! THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE HER DISABILITY.

from your post:
"In August, [2001]the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a learning-disabled woman has to have TWICE the normal 2 days to take the New York State bar examination, according to an article by Mark Hamblett in the New York Law Journal.
Marilyn Bartlett, whose 8-year fight with the New York State Board of Law Examiners has included an appeal to the US Supreme Court and two appearances before the 2nd Circuit Court, convinced Judge Sonia Sotomayor that she has a disability that should be accommodated under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)."

And also from your post:
"If the USA can give someone extra time to pass the bar, shouldn't the USA give someone extra time to prove she wants to communicate?

GOOD QUESTION!!!

from your post:
Noting that the Second Circuit Court of Appeals' precedents regarding the definition of disability set in this case are firmly established, Bartlett went on, "my battle has been waged so that others will not have to fight for their rights the way I had to."


I'm seeing a connection between Marilyn Bartlett's case and Terri's, BIG TIME!
(Or maybe I'm just extremely tired!)

NOW, I'm going to sleep.

Will be in prayer tomorrow for Terri.

[Deo volente]

I think syriacus might be on to something here, in post #3709.

Has this been argued yet before Judge Lazzara?

Is it relevant? (A non-lawyer's question)

[windchime]

Not sure what gives here.  St. Pete Times...LEFTIST....Troxler...LEFTIST.  

"If a spoon vs. a tube is the entire difference between life or death, it is too fine a distinction. I would not be able to let her die on that basis."

Too thin a line between life, death for Schiavo

[floriduh voter]

On Bay News 9 this morning, they said that the other time exit protocol was started, they withheld nourishment & water for 60 hours and a Judge ordered it stopped.

Per Bay News 9, Terri's parents want the chance to rehab her to see if she can eat on her own. Of course Judge Greer could dismiss their request for that(just reporting).

Bay News 9 is going a great job. Glenn Beck just started. Ben Affleck dumped Jenny from the Block. Glenn is going to have less commercials - completely, new format for radio.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Maybe he's a leftist, but at least he's a thinking leftist (I know...a contradiction in terms). That was a good article. He did much more research into both sides of the issue than most reporters so far. He has asked some important questions, and maybe understands what's at risk in this case. What side do we err on, the right-to-die or the right-to-live? "I would not be able to let her die on that basis." Me, either. Prayers for Terri!

[floriduh voter]

Please ping your list to 3762. Christopher Reeve's email address.

[syriacus]

Thanks very much for reading the info on Marilyn Bartlett.

I'm glad that you understood what I meant, even though I didn't have much time yesterday to find a good summary of her case...I think this might be a better one.

"LEARNING DISABILITIES AND THE STATE BAR EXAMINATION, As published in The Buffalo Law Journal October 18, 2001

Marilyn Bartlett, who had taken the New York State Bar Exam several times and failed, alleged that her dyslexia substantially limited her major life activity of reading, or alternatively, working. She claimed that the state's Board of Law Examiners discriminated against her under the ADA (titles II and III) by failing to provide her with reasonable accommodations when taking the bar exam.

There are glaring differences between Bartlett and Terri. Bartlett had made accommodations to help her with her disability. She was able to obtain a doctorate, but needed accommodations to pass the NY bar exam. Terri can't help herself. She needs help in getting the accommodations she needs. (But isn't that the reason we have the ADA, anyway?)

Someone I know was researching Bartlett's case a few years back, while it was still unresolved, and we used to discuss it. I had forgotten all about Bartlett, until I was cleaning bookshelves in the living room yesterday and came across some printouts about her case.

Mike's examining doctors must be a little "slow" in the head, themselves, since they don't seem to take response time into account. Sheesh, "ordinary" teachers know that, in order to be effective, they must allow students the time they need to process and respond to oral questions or directives in class.

Terri should be given the time she needs to process questions and directives. She should also be given more than one chance to "pass" her test.

If Marilyn Bartlett, (who already is a college professor), gets >>>>extra time<<<< to take the bar exam, Terri should get extra time and support to pass an exam that means she gets to live. Since Marilyn Bartlett was given many chances to pass the law bar, Terri should be given many chances, too.

I think the expert witness on speech pathology made a good point about the accommodations that should have been made, all along, to help Terri deal with her disabilities.

For crying out loud, did Mike even do inexpensive things to improve Terri's environment?

I don't think he's bothered to do even simple, inexpensive, things to make life a little more "colorful" for Terri. If Terri is looking "up" quite a bit, couldn't posters/decorations have been applied to the ceiling? Couldn't they be routinely changed to stimulate her brain, keep her from being bored. Couldn't they have been moved a little, to encourage Terri to expand her vision "comfort-zone."

Even babies get mobiles over their cribs.

I think Bartlett's case also shows that the Federal Government can step into a case that had been handled in state courts, if the Americans with Disabilities Act is being violated.

[windchime]

They didn't have anything on their site this morning. Are they going to cover the hearing?

[nina0113]

ping to catch up later

[syriacus]

Great column.

He must be a "compassionate" liberal.

I noticed he alludes to the same "smothering with a pillow" scenario that the Schindlers' lawyer did the other day in court.

I asked him - using a harsh example - what difference exists between removing the tube, and just putting a pillow over her face.

Great column.