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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: Ohioan from Florida
I'll join you.
3,741 posted on 09/14/2003 4:25:41 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: Theodore R.
One could expect those words to come from Lenin of Chairman Mao. We have been sorely fooled.
3,742 posted on 09/14/2003 5:17:53 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: syriacus; Ohioan from Florida
I'm in.
3,743 posted on 09/14/2003 5:40:22 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime; syriacus
Good! The more we have, the better!
3,744 posted on 09/14/2003 6:22:31 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: MarMema; kimmie7
Any news on Terri? By the way, I learned that Arnold supporters have put Terri's official web site on their Arnold sites. I thought that was nice of them. They might even tell AS about it.
3,745 posted on 09/14/2003 6:26:11 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Prayers for Terri to be given a chance to live.


Prayers for Judge Greer to be given a change of heart.
3,746 posted on 09/14/2003 6:28:29 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, Terri will live.)
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To: syriacus
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a policy where his fiance and new kids were the beneficiaries. That way, he can't be accused of getting the proceeds. I know just a tad more than you about insurance, just a tad.

We're still not 100% certain what the Jergers do re: insurance or if it was just convenient to use Schiavo's residence as the address of their business.

That was covered in the first 1000 posts somewhere. His fiance is linked with the Jergers.

3,747 posted on 09/14/2003 6:34:25 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: blueriver
Arnold supporters in California put Terri's link on their web pages. They did not hesitate at all.
3,748 posted on 09/14/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Any news on Terri? By the way, I learned that Arnold supporters have put Terri's official web site on their Arnold sites. I thought that was nice of them. They might even tell AS about it.



Do you have any links. I had sent a letter re: Terri
to his campaign staff, etc. but they never called me back, etc.
3,749 posted on 09/14/2003 6:45:32 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
What about Christopher Reeves? I was also thinking if we could get other celebrities involved, etc. even athletes.
3,750 posted on 09/14/2003 6:48:19 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: pc93
There are 3 Arnold links. They had the GOP conference yesterday in kallyfornia. They're on my web site after the 9-11 stuff.

http://www.conservative-spirit.org. I also made a page for Terri and kept it simple. Please drop by. I have a new hit counter and I need to see if it works.

3,751 posted on 09/14/2003 6:50:04 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: pc93
Reeves just won an award this weekend for being a champion of the disabled. He must have a web site. He's been discussed here but I don't think anybody looked him up for email or phone number. He has some kind of organization in his name.
3,752 posted on 09/14/2003 6:52:15 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: Deo volente
I've been doing some reading this weekend on brain injury, esp. anoxia (what Terri suffered),
and found something interesting. It seems that one of the most common effects of anoxia is AMNESIA, especially for what happened just before the brain injury.


Wouldn't that be IRONIC if Terri can't remember what happened to her shortly before her "collapse". It would seem that any sinister efforts by certain parties to hasten her death, in order to keep her 'quiet', would be unnecessary!


Here are a couple of links. There are many if you do a google search for "anoxia" "amnesia"

Retrograde Amnesia.
Retrograde amnesia is the type of amnesia most people think of when they hear the term. People with retrograde amnesia find it hard to remember things that occurred prior to an incident in which they incurred damage to the head. Sometimes people never remember the seconds leading up to the incident.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-007.shtml


Anoxic amnesia: Classic amnesia that may result from anoxia (total deprivation of oxygen) caused by acute cardiopulmonary arrest. With reinstatement of oxygenated blood flow, many patients now survive short periods of total brain anoxia. If the period of anoxia is sufficiently short, recovery may be complete, but if somewhat longer, recovery may be accompanied by persistent amnesia. The most prominent findings are cell loss in the hippocampus.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web1/Green.html




3,753 posted on 09/14/2003 6:53:00 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, Terri will live.)
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Can you add my link on the same page:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt

I keep it updated in text format.
3,754 posted on 09/14/2003 6:54:41 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: pc93
Confirm putting your link on Terri's page? Can I just copy and paste it? I'll have to do tomorrow. I was on talk radio tonight and stayed on for quite awhile on a liberal radio show. Then, he couldn't take anymore because I kind of was taking over his show from him. "click".
3,755 posted on 09/14/2003 7:01:49 PM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.terrisfight.org/)
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To: Deo volente
This case is full of more ironies than one could imagine. I am surprised that CBS Sunday Night Movie people aren't trying to turn this into a two-part production.
3,756 posted on 09/14/2003 7:08:06 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: freeparoundtheclock
I copied this from post#675
Here's a nice corporation with Michael Schiavo on IT'S board of directors...
Jerger & Centonze Insurance (mispelled INSURNACE) Inc.
While Jodi's name appears on it, she is not an officer of the corp. Notice how convoluted it gets. Here's the URL for the propery assessment -
Jodi Centonze's (Mike Schiavo's) home
Comparable sales value 2001-2003: $240,300
SQ FT: 2,159
Custom Wood Frame
Pool valued at $15,000
I think I need to find out a little bit more about Jodi Centonze..
Dandelion posted this.
It has links to the insurance site, but I can't get it to copy right.
3,757 posted on 09/14/2003 7:15:18 PM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Reeve, no s. I confused his last name with George Reeves, another "Superman."
3,758 posted on 09/14/2003 7:40:36 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Deo volente
A couple of comments on what Chris Reeve is doing from his wheelchair (even though he can't put a spoon to his own mouth) from CelebrityWonder.com

Paralyzed actor, Christopher Reeve, has accepted $2 million from American federal funds to establish an education resource center for people with paralysis and their families.

Reeve called on world governments to adopt a treaty protecting the rights of the disabled at a U.N. ceremony honoring Ecuador for its support for people with disabilities (Sept. 20, 2002)

Quotes:

Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go out in the ocean.

A hero is an ordinary individual who finds strength to persevere and endure in spite of overwhelming obstacles.

3,759 posted on 09/14/2003 8:26:32 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Robert Drobot
Greetings friends!

Ya'll know I'm in....we've had a busy weekend here and I'm just getting a few moments to myself. I'll be in and out, as a dear friend's grandmother (who was dear to me also) died on Saturday.

Forgive me, but I'm speed-typing and keeping up with little buddy, WHO IS STILL UP!, what time is this hearing??

Robert, did you get my e-mail?
3,760 posted on 09/14/2003 8:28:14 PM PDT by kimmie7 (NEW developments re: Terri Schiavo!)
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