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Evangelicals poised to take over the Church
The Telegraph ^ | August 25, 2003 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on 08/24/2003 7:47:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner

Evangelicals poised to take over the Church


By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
(Filed: 25/08/2003)

Evangelicals, dismissed as a vociferous minority by senior liberals during the Jeffrey John affair, are now poised to take over the Church of England.

A new study suggests that, if current trends continue, evangelicals will make up more than half of all Sunday church worshippers in 10 years' time, up from about a third now.

As they grow quickly, Liberals and Anglo-Catholics continue to decline, says Dr Peter Brierley, a former government statistician who heads Christian Research.

Moreover, all but a tiny proportion of the new breed of evangelicals will be theologically conservative, viewing sex outside marriage, including homosexuality, as outlawed by Scripture.

According to the new analysis, they are consolidating their grip on the Church's income, contributing a significant amount of money to church funds.

Also, half of all ordinands training to be the next generation of clergy are attending evangelical colleges.

The combined effect could be to provide the evangelical wing of the Church with an unprecedented power base as long as their numbers are reflected in the membership of the General Synod and the Church's leadership in future years.

Dr Brierley's projections are expected to alarm liberals, who have portrayed them as fringe fundamentalists whose influence is out of proportion to their numbers. His analysis indicates that, based on several national surveys by Christian Research, about 35 per cent of churchgoers in 1998 were evangelicals and that proportion could rise to half by 2010.

Of this, he estimates, just eight per cent will be "broad" or "liberal" evangelicals, who are relaxed over issues such as homosexuality. The remainder will be mainstream or charismatic hard-liners.

Another survey, detailed in this year's Religious Trends handbook, indicates that the total giving of evangelical churches is already about 40 per cent of the Church's national income.

The latest Church statistics show that for 2001 the total income of parishes was £650 million. Evangelical worshippers put an estimated £250 million of that into the collection plate.

Their financial muscle was demonstrated during the crisis over Canon Jeffrey John, the openly homosexual cleric who was forced by evangelical pressure in June to withdraw as the Bishop of Reading.

Many evangelical parishes, which include most of the largest and wealthiest in the country, were planning to withhold a significant proportion of the quotas they pay to central funds if Canon John had been consecrated.

"These figures show that mainstream evangelicals are a larger group than most others already, and they are still growing," said Dr Brierley. "If these trends continue, they could become the largest group in the Church within a decade."

His findings belie comments by liberals like the Dean of Southwark, the Very Rev Colin Slee, who said in July that Canon John had been forced to stand down by a minority who made "a noise out of all proportion to their size".

The Rev Giles Fraser, the vicar of Putney, admitted that liberals could have underestimated the influence of "fundamentalist" evangelicals, and it was worrying for the future of the Church.

"The truth is that they have learned the techniques of marketing, how to sell something," he said. "It's a very simple message. But it's like selling soap powder. I think that way of simplifying and marketing is verging on idolatory - putting God into a box."

Gordon Lynch, a theologian from Birmingham University, said that Dr Brierley's analysis was too simplistic and did not allow for shades of opinion and people's changing views. He conceded, however, that socially conservative evangelicals were becoming a "considerable influence".

"They represent one of the few groups in society where people who are drawn to that kind of social conservatism can actually find a home," said Dr Lynch.

"Perhaps the Conservative Party used to provide a kind of structure for those people, but it seems to do that less and less now. So there is a danger that the Church does drift towards an increasingly conservative position."



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To: Stefan Stackhouse
But there was never any consciousness of these being multiple, separate "churches". None of the epistles are ever addressed to "churches" within a single city, but rather to either "the church in (city)" or "the churches in (geographic region or province)"

I'm not sure I'm following you.

1Cor.1
[2] Unto the church of God which is at Corinth

2Thes.1
[1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians

Acts.11
[22] Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem

Does the use of the word church in these passages indicate that there were many churches in Corinth, Thessalonia and Jerusalem?

Acts.9
[31] Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria

Acts.15
[41] And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.

1Cor.16
[1] Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia

Does the use of the word churches in these passages mean there were many churches in Judea, Galilee, Samaria, Syria, Cilicia and Galatia?

101 posted on 08/27/2003 5:48:45 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: Matchett-PI
Very well said. We seem to be in agreement.

I think you might have addressed this issue better than I did.

Thanks for your insight.

102 posted on 08/27/2003 5:54:58 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
I'm not sure I'm following you.

1Cor.1; 2Thes.1; Acts.11;

Does the use of the word church in these passages indicate that there were many churches in Corinth, Thessalonia and Jerusalem?

No, the plain sense is that in each of these cities there was a church (i.e., one). Multiple small gatherings were known to have happened at least in Jerusalem, but even then, Jerusalem was considered to have only one church.

Acts.9; Acts.15; 1Cor.16;

Does the use of the word churches in these passages mean there were many churches in Judea, Galilee, Samaria, Syria, Cilicia and Galatia?

Yes, because Judea, Galilee, Samaria, etc. are all geographic regions or provinces with multiple cities, towns, or settlements, many of which each had its own church.

103 posted on 08/28/2003 5:30:29 PM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: lepton
"Take over"? How about "remnant"?

Probably correct. But that remnant may be the core of something that grows larger. Sort of a "wheat from the tares" type of thing....

104 posted on 08/28/2003 5:35:42 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: utahagen
Do you have any indication if the conservative opponents in the Anglican movement who are resisting the retreat from orthodoxy are closer to the old calvinist wing of anglicanism?

I'm Roman Catholic; would Episcopalian freepers please let me know if I'm on the right track?

I think your word "orthodox" is probably about right. You can get a good idea of the theological approach from the Anglican Articles of Religion.

There's a lot of room for variance within those Articles, and probably there are "orthodox" Anglicans who span the gamut of possibilities.

I don't think there's any particularly Calvinist approach here -- indeed, some of the election and pre-destination aspects of Calvinism seem to be explicitly rejected (See Article XVII).

The orthodox view of human nature may be the stuff that binds us "orthodox Anglicans" together -- it's not too different from what Paul says in Romans 5....

105 posted on 08/28/2003 5:48:44 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
My point was, that "taking over" wasn't an influx, nor was it illegitimate. The conservative remnant is what remains to preserve the church.
106 posted on 08/28/2003 8:14:12 PM PDT by lepton
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To: AnAmericanMother; RnMomof7

HRH Prince Charles was photographed some time
ago at the Grand Opening of a new Ahl as-Sunna
masjid in London. Here accompanied by two shaikhs
wearing traditional Sunni turbans he waters a newly
planted-tree symbolizing the spread of Islam in England.


107 posted on 08/28/2003 11:15:53 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Oh, great. And he's in line to be head of the Church of England and "Defender of the Faith."
108 posted on 08/29/2003 4:21:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: lepton
Then we agree. ;-)
109 posted on 08/29/2003 7:35:38 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: ppaul
That is very scary. England is a post Christian country that is very occult.

You know Paul we see all the signs . Slowly Christianity is being marginalized , the spiritual vacuum that will be left will be filled by the deceiver and liar

110 posted on 08/29/2003 7:53:28 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (saved by Grace alone,)
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To: Matchett-PI; PFKEY
"Every church of Christ is a self-governing body, free to carry on its own affairs and work under Christ and the apostles. This power of self-government is carried out through elders (who are also called "bishops" and "pastors") in every church. Note that it is not a plurality of churches under one bishop, but rather, a plurality of bishops in every church!" ~ PFKEY

When PFKEY speaks of the Church of Christ he does not mean your church or mine. He means His denomination the "Church of Christ " as being the only one that saves

One of the things that is becoming more self evident to me is we all use similar language but we mean different things

111 posted on 08/29/2003 8:00:57 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (saved by Grace alone,)
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To: r9etb
Thanks for the informative response.

Keep the faith.
112 posted on 08/29/2003 7:23:14 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: RnMomof7; PFKEY
"When PFKEY speaks of the Church of Christ he does not mean your church or mine. He means His denomination the "Church of Christ " as being the only one that saves."

Oh, THAT church, huh! Tricky, tricky.

At What Price Success?: The Boston (Church of Christ) Movement, by James Bjornstad

113 posted on 08/30/2003 8:04:08 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Matchett-PI
Good link thank you

I just told P that the church I used to go to belonged to a Christian flag football league

The CoC was one of the "churches" They were very "evangelical" The older members came to the games and took men aside to invite them to their church .

114 posted on 08/30/2003 12:05:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Saved by Grace alone,Calivinist by free will)
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