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This is the LA Times article referenced in the Atlanta Journal article with more numbers..
1 posted on 08/24/2003 7:26:01 AM PDT by prarie earth
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McClintock - GET OUT of the race!
2 posted on 08/24/2003 7:47:45 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=130)
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To: prarie earth
There is the theory of voting to keep Davis as a known evil is better than an unknown evil.
6 posted on 08/24/2003 8:03:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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There are too many Republicans in this race and the people of our state simply cannot risk a continuation of the Gray Davis legacy. For these reasons, I think it is wise to step aside."-Bill Simon

This is what separates a statesman from a hack.

McClintock would be a good Lt. Governor, but will throw the race to the rats if he continues to run.

14 posted on 08/24/2003 8:12:31 AM PDT by Rome2000 (McClintock is a megalomaniac with delusions of Ralph Naderism)
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A lot can still happen. The campaign has barely begun, and we know that Dave Grayvis is a dirty campaigner. Does anyone believe that he will not practice a scorched earth policy? He could have some serious dirt on Schwartzenegger ready to go a short time before Oct 7.

Also, I don't underestimate the California voters in terms of what issues sway their votes. Gun control and abortion are two big ones. I know people that will vote for the Dem always on these two issues, and judging by how often these issues come up in campaigns, they do seem to be a major influence on the voters here. Abortion even came up in the controller's race between Westly and McClintock. Now, what does the State Controller have to do with abortion policy? But Westly brought it up and pounded McClintock with it.

I'm not feeling very optimistic about this election.
17 posted on 08/24/2003 8:15:11 AM PDT by .38sw
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Much of (Arnolds) strategy is based on cross over appeal to non-Republican voters given his comparitvely moderate views on issues such as gun control, abortion and gay rights.

I have a hard time keeping up with current definitions (getting old, I guess), but doesn't moderate today mean what Liberal did 10 years ago and left wing extremeist did 30 or 40 years ago?

21 posted on 08/24/2003 8:19:37 AM PDT by templar
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BREAKING NEWS>>>>>>>>>>>>SHOULD BE:

GOP TO SPLIT VOTES TO ELECT CRUZ>>>>>>>>>>...
39 posted on 08/24/2003 8:34:48 AM PDT by KQQL (^@__*^)
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To: prarie earth; veronica; Consort; DoughtyOne; MeeknMing
If McClintock keeps up his ego trip and Ah-Noldt either wins or loses to Bustamante then McClintock's future in politics is dead in the water forever.

McClintock has a great shot at a long term career as a US Senator from California but he will never get enough votes from Republicans and Conservatives if he plays the Perot/McCain card this year.

He will get not RNC money for Senate campaigns and get no backing in a Senate election.

Count on it.

I'm not interested in self-annointed Conservative gurus experts that have a "my way or the highway" political philosophy.

Their style of politics let California turn into a left-wing bankrupt anarchist hell over time.

Both the Republican and democrat party have had these egotists that run every four years for the United States Presidency with no practical or logical chance of ever even winning the nomination.

Simon and McClintock have had years to advance their agendas and enhance their resumes.

They blew it.

Bigtime.

It is a childlike faith that allows one to bet on the long shot that never has one the big race.

McClintock is no dark horse ringer on steroids sandbagging the field and the betters.

When McClintock became a man he needed to put away his childish toys on the shelf.

Oh ye of ultimate faith in McClintock just watch your little boy get blown away.

No problemo.
43 posted on 08/24/2003 8:39:17 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0803/24recall.html

Bustamante enjoys the support of 35 percent of likely voters.

Schwarzenegger received 22% support,
State Sen. Tom McClintock with 12%
Businessman Peter Ueberroth with 7%
Bill Simon with 6%

IF Arnie and McClintock stay in the race then the "GOP voters will Elect CRUZ "



52 posted on 08/24/2003 8:47:48 AM PDT by KQQL (^@__*^)
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Let's see...McClintock...the allegedly only "true" conservative, can only muster 21% of the GOP vote?!?!

God Almighty! You mean there are more people in the GOP who would support the supposed "RINO" at 39% than there are who would the true conservative?!?

If you can only get 1 in 5 of your OWN party to vote for you, then please get the hell out of the race.
71 posted on 08/24/2003 9:02:15 AM PDT by medscribe
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81 posted on 08/24/2003 9:11:22 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Roughly seven in ten Democratic voters have an unfavorable impression of the action-movie star, while the same number of likely Republican voters expressed a favorable view.

Not news to me. I've been telling those who, based on NOTHING but their own false perceptions, kept saying how Schwarzenegger would split the dem vote, that the above would be the scenario.

Common sense, not foot stamping hysterics, always rule the day.

90 posted on 08/24/2003 9:21:48 AM PDT by cyncooper
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If it's the LA Times you can take three things to the bank.

1) Arnie is leading Cruz.

2) Arnie has a stronger lead over Tom than is reported.

3) LA Times polls are shamelessly manipulated to promote a liberal agenda.

105 posted on 08/24/2003 9:40:44 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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Folks this is all a part of a vast left wing conspiracy. First the Times has a poll showing the recall is virtually tied with just 50% favoring and now they come up with a poll showing Cruz leading Arnold by 13%. This poll is counter to the other polls I have seen. These other polls show the recall winning easily and replacement for Gray being very close. Obviously the libs and their cronies in the media want the average voter to think the recall is close and that Cruz is going to win. I will say this, with only one Dem in the race the GOP needs to settle on one candidate or it is going to be very hard for the GOP to win governor's race.
109 posted on 08/24/2003 9:43:19 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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113 posted on 08/24/2003 9:45:06 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.)
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The screwed up part about this recall is you can NO on the recall part and still vote on the second part.That gives Cruz a huge advantage with the hardcore democrats who are more concerned about the party than they are about the state. I know some of them and their hatred of conservatives rules their voting. It is a major flaw in the recall provision.
120 posted on 08/24/2003 9:48:24 AM PDT by novacation
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McClintock needs to get on Arnold's advisory team.
132 posted on 08/24/2003 10:05:48 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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This poll is BS. I can't believe Busta-mental is ahead. Why would people dump Davis and install an ideological twin???? The only poll that matters will be taken October 7th.
211 posted on 08/24/2003 11:46:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Who do you support for Governor of California now that Bill Simon has dropped out?

McClintock 331 votes - 50%
Schwarzenegger 292 votes - 44%
Other 11 votes - 1%
Undecided 23 votes - 3%

If this were a Republican primary and only Freepers voted, I'd have to suggest, "Asta La Vista, Arnold".

235 posted on 08/24/2003 12:56:12 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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I'm not a resident of CA, so I take a more "nationally strategic" view. In that view, the best outcome for the state and the nation is the election of Arnold as Governor. Here's why:

Any R is better than any D, and Arnold has the best chance among all of the R's. With Arnold in the governor's seat, the D's will be forced to spend money in California in the 2004 presidential race. They will get no free photo ops with a compliant D governor. That's less money that they will have to spend nationally, which could lead to greater R gains across the country.

Now, I like EVERYTHING that I have recently heard and read about Tom McClintock. In keeping with my nationally strategic perspective, I'd like Tom to save himself for the next Senatorial election in CA. He's better suited to that role, and as a US Senator, he can share his principled conservatism with the rest of the country.
237 posted on 08/24/2003 1:03:54 PM PDT by Buck W.
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I think McClintock should stay in for at least a few more weeks. We don't know what will happen to the Schwarzenneger campaign once the "real" mud begins to fly. Also, as Schwarzenegger begins to further detail his platform and he takes attacks on it, we may need a safety valve in the end if Schwarzenegger looks like he will go down for the count.

Bottom line: it's too early for McClintock to bail. Save it for the final weeks when one or the other can throw their endorsement the other way.

-PJ

259 posted on 08/24/2003 2:03:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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