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“In the Supreme Court We Trust?”
special to Free Republic ^ | 22 August 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 08/22/2003 5:29:05 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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To: jokar
Rush Limbaugh last week offered the opinion that the Reagan Revolution faltered because we assumed we had won the ideological battle and didn't need to keep educating the people.

A VERY good post, but I feel an urge to correct the above revisionist statement. It was Rush Limbaugh, not “we,” who bullishly declared victory in the ideological battle. It was a million dittoheads who claimed: “Yeah, cool, Rush! Now we can relax and enjoy our new freedom.”

41 posted on 08/23/2003 8:01:16 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: petitfour
What can Congress do about this? They can't be establishin' no religion, now can they???????

While we weren’t looking, they certainly DID illegally establish an official religion – Secular Humanism. We, the People, must now worship the government.

42 posted on 08/23/2003 8:04:32 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: petitfour
Nope. Congress cannot, and should not, establish a religion. What it CAN do is establish limits on the jurisdiction of the federal courts. Article III of the Constitution gives Congress that power. On occasion it has used that power. Now is the time to use it again.

Billybob

43 posted on 08/23/2003 8:10:02 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Tarl
That fine quote from Sam Adams is one of my favorites, also. Thanks for posting it.

Billybob

44 posted on 08/23/2003 8:11:51 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Khepera
Yes the american populace is going to go up against the most powerful military force in the world armed with what?

Deer rifles work just fine. Note the success of the WV and DC snipers with weapons of similar firepower.

FYI... when push comes to shove, a hefty percentage of that "most powerful military force" will be on the other side. (I've had many conversation with friends in the service about this.) Besides, even if they do not, 2 million massed soldiers vs 45 million scattered snipers doesn't look much like a losing proposition for the populace. If only 1 in 5 bother to fight, and only 1 in 4 of those manages a hit before they are eliminated, the snipers still win with a million men to spare. Those are decent odds, and the exact logic behind the Second Amendment.

45 posted on 08/23/2003 8:24:41 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Congressman Billybob
I believe you are right in the solution.

However, there is one critical drawback to implementation. The Senate is in effect being controlled by the Democrats, who, along with a few rascally Republicans, would never let such a thing happen as the Court is giving them so much of their otherwise unpassable agenda.

I think to be successful, our first effort should be to politically neuter the Liberals in the Senate either by throwing them out of office or by a strong Republican leadership playing implacable hardball (the option much less likely to occur).

46 posted on 08/23/2003 4:31:02 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Congressman Billybob
EXCELLENT ARTICLE!! THANKS FOR POSTING IT!!

BUMP FOR ANOTHER ROUND ON THIS FINE SATURDAY!
47 posted on 08/23/2003 5:02:23 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Congressman Billybob
But this court denial is applied only in Alabama, not in D.C.

Myron Thompson's apologists here on FR don't like having that pointed out to them.

48 posted on 08/23/2003 5:11:51 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: jokar
"I will attribute this piece later tonight or tomorrow. "

OK. I'll bite....who said the speech??? (Which is terrific, btw.)
49 posted on 08/23/2003 5:18:35 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Congressman Billybob
Article III of the Constitution gives Congress that power. On occasion it has used that power. Now is the time to use it again.

I got beat to a bloody pulp on this issue. I maintained that according to "B1 Bomber Bob" Dornan Congress had passed laws that were not subject to Judicial review some 124(est) times in the past. Boy that created some harsh words. Glad to see that you understand this.

50 posted on 08/23/2003 9:40:37 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: Teacher317
the snipers still win with a million men to spare. Those are decent odds, and the exact logic behind the Second Amendment.

And this is exactly the reason the 2nd is under such attack.....

51 posted on 08/23/2003 9:42:04 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: jokar
Speechmaker
52 posted on 08/23/2003 10:17:29 PM PDT by rw4site
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks Billybob. Posting for tracking purposes.

Yhwhsman

53 posted on 08/24/2003 5:05:17 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I like your column and ideas.
But how do we get Congress to move?

I've suggested citizens make a habit of chanting at appearances by congressmem of all stripes something like "Bring - Back - God / Bring - Back - God / ..." until they get the message.

I've also recognized the difficulty given the behavior of the political party leadership in recent years. The Michigan Affirmative Action ruling by SCOTUS was even worse than this confrontation, yet how come there wasn't a groundswell of congressional activity to slap SCOTUS over its invoking "compelling state interests" (CSI) to overrule the very constitution they are sworn to uphold?

Here's how I see that stacking up.

As to why Congress hasn't mounted a challenge you need look no further than the Leftist/Statist axis I dubbed in April 2000, RepublicRats™.

The leadership of the GOP, the party that proclaims itself our protector against judicial activism, has marginalized the conservative element within the GOP who really are our statwarts. If there are conservatives actively seeking to overturn the CSI outrage of the last SCOTUS session, they are getting no press coverage. They are not on the radar screen. They have been marginalized.

But along comes Chief Justice Moore has risked his considerable position to bring the conservative cause out of the corner and onto the front page. The media and the rest of the Establishment couldn't just ignore him. He exposed for us the ACLU flimflam of justice while he still could and so we could react.

There are many who say CJ Moore has violated the rule of law. I ask, what law?
A ruling made concrete by a SCOTUS that chose to ignore his case?
A SCOTUS ruling that attempted to marginalize the issue he raised? Just go way they say?
The same SCOTUS which stands in open contempt of the very constitution upon which this questionable decision rests?

SCOTUS is said to be setting down the law by rubber stamping the questionable ruling. That makes it an undemocratic law. A law of judicial fiat. An autocratic law passed by 5 out of 9 little robes. Robes who think they are accountable to nobody, not even God. Their aim, by ignoring his case, was to marginalize CJ Moore like the rest of the Establishment have been doing to other good conservatives. One law, among many, for which the SCOTUS could be slapped but for the RepublicRats™ in leadership in Congress.

Well, who that is of right mind advocates violating laws as a matter of course? Yet sometimes civil disobedience is necessary. Used judiciously, not overused, it makes a splash that is usually long overdue. Too bad the media is on the side of Leviathan in this one Congressman BB.

Well, God bless Chief Justice Moore.
God bless those who answer the call to battle made aloud by his case and strengthened by his courage.
May this nation continue to be blessed by men of conscience who are willing to sacrifice their position for the sake of our great nation.

54 posted on 08/24/2003 5:41:53 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
My question too.....how do we get ACTION? I often call and email Senators and Congressmen. Most recently, I called about the filibusters of the Pres judicial nominees and Sen Orin Hatch's Amendment to allow a naturalized citizen, who has lived in the U.S. for 20 yrs, become President. The person in Hatch's office listened and explained why, he believed, a true 24x7 filibuster is not necessarily in the best interest of Republicans. But, calls to the RNC and Sen. Frist's office were answered by "dead people" who just gave lip service. VERY FRUSTRATING. Even literature,asking for money, from the various Republicans no longer talk about the judicial nominees. This is too important an issue to ignore. What ACTIONS can we, the people, take to help get the Senate to vote on these judges? Why doesn't the RNC coordinate an effort to have all State and Fed Parties conduct a MASSIVE grass roots campaign to contact all Senators demanding a vote? Individual calls or emails are ignored. What can we do??
55 posted on 08/24/2003 8:01:43 PM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: 4integrity
I think the way to get action is to organize openly planned embarrassments for your elected officials. Then pass along your successes and lessons to friends all around the country. (Hint, hint: some at FR might be receptive).

Go to the next forum where one of your politicians is appearing with a handful or more of your VERY FRUSTRATED friends. Disperse yourselves throughout the audience. Then begin chanting an appropriate recited set of phrases, following the cues of your boldest member.

Because this particularly egregious case is in the news, my most recent suggestion is "Bring - Back - God / Bring - Back - God / Bring - Back - God /...."

It's democratic. It's reasonable. And it makes it a lot harder for your representatives to marginalize public sentiment when they meet it whereever they go in public.

And plan on having fun at some public marshmallow's expense while doing your duty for your nation at the same time. You may find that that marshmallow really has a backbone buried way down deep in there. ;)
56 posted on 08/24/2003 8:26:54 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thank you Congressman Billybob.

The simplicity of it all boggles the mind, apparently in too deep a fashion for the SCOTUS.

I am looking forward to your book on Tom Paine and to watching as another cannard of the left is stood on its head.

57 posted on 08/25/2003 12:45:48 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Congressman Billybob
But the Court knows full well that any such orders would be overwhelmingly ignored by Congress on behalf of the people. The practices would not stop; the Court would simply be embarrassed.

Then embarrass the heck out of them. Simpering idiots for the most part, with maybe 1 out of 100 actually understanding the Constitution. Bump for Justice Roy S. Moore.

58 posted on 08/25/2003 4:46:45 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: Khepera
I think I get your point. The congress has taken care to de-arm the American population of at least state of the art weapons, puting the American people at a distinct disadvantage should (civil war), shudder, (an oxymoronic statement if there ever was one) ever become a reality.
59 posted on 08/25/2003 5:45:59 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 75thOVI; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; ...
BTTT !!! Great thread.. thank you.. I am adding this thread to my website !

David

60 posted on 08/25/2003 8:56:29 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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