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Mark Steyn: Iraq may be on the edge but France has hit rock bottom abyss
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 08/23/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/22/2003 4:35:57 PM PDT by Pokey78

'The US and British armies have entered the gates of hell," thundered George Galloway last month. "Soon it will be 100 degrees at midnight in Baghdad, but there will be no respite from the need for full body armour."

As usual, George was a little off. The gates of hell are on the périphérique and it's 100 degrees at midnight in the pissoir on the Metro. To date, two US soldiers are believed to have succumbed to the heat in Iraq, whereas over 10,000 people have succumbed to it in France.

That would make George's brutal Iraqi summer about one five-thousandth as lethal as the brutal Gallic summer, which has killed more people than the brutal Afghan winter (now 23 months behind schedule), the brutal Iraqi summer and the searing heat of the Guantanamo torture camps combined and multiplied by a thousand.

Certainly, Iraq has its problems. Jacques Chirac, en vacances just up the road from me in North Hatley, Quebec, took time out of his three-week holiday to issue a statement on events in Baghdad, where 20 people died on Tuesday. But he didn't bother to interrupt his vacation to issue a statement on events in France, where so many people have died, the funeral homes are standing room only and they're having to store bodies in the freezers at the fruit and veg markets.

Now that his old pal and nuclear client has been removed from power, M Chirac is utterly irrelevant to the future of Iraq. But surely France still falls within his jurisdiction, doesn't it?

And where are the Red Cross and Oxfam and Human Rights Watch and all the other noisy humanitarians? If 10,000 Iraqis had died of dysentery on George W Bush's watch, you'd never hear the end of it. A few weeks back, with three fatal cases of cholera, the Humanitarian Lobby was already shrieking that we stood on the edge of a humanitarian catastrophe.

France isn't on the edge, it's in the abyss. When I motored round Iraq a couple of months ago, the hospital wards were well below capacity. Yet in France the entire health system – or that percentage of it not spending August at the beach – is stretched beyond its limits (35 hours a week, 44 weeks a year). Why aren't Médecins Sans Frontières demanding to be allowed in to take over?

There's an old, cynical formula for the weight accorded different disasters on American TV news. It runs something like: one dead American = 10 dead Israelis = 100 dead Russians = 1,000 dead Bangladeshis. But 10,000 French can die, and even the French don't seem to care – or not too much, and not with any great urgency.

Bernard Mazeyrie, managing director of France's largest undertakers, told the New York Times that several of the bereaved were in no hurry to bury their aged loved ones: "Some, he said, informed of the death of relatives, postponed funerals, not to interrupt the August 15 holiday weekend, and left the bodies in the refrigerated hall." Au bord de la mer? Ou au bord de ma mère? Hmm. Tough call.

I don't know what M Chirac heard in the dépanneurs and resto-bars of Quebec this week, but what I heard south of the border was complete amazement at how a nominally First World country could be so insouciant about an entirely avoidable Third World death toll. President Bush and the entire Washington press corps are spending a month in heat equal to the brutal Parisian summer, and he's playing golf in it all day while they stand around watching; in Phoenix tomorrow and Monday, it will be an unremarkable 105. This isn't about the weather.

In Paris this spring, a government official explained to me how Europeans had created a more civilised society than America - socialised healthcare, shorter work weeks, more holidays. We've just seen where that leads: gran'ma turned away from the hospital to die in an airless apartment because junior's sur la plage. M Chirac's somewhat tetchy suggestion that his people should rethink their attitude to the elderly was well taken. But Big Government inevitably diminishes its citizens' capacity to take responsibility, to the point where even your dead mum is just one more inconvenience the state should do something about.

Meanwhile, Maggie Pernot wrote the other day to chide me for my continued defence of the Rumsfeld Death Camps at Guantanamo. The prisoners, she complains, are "kept in tiny, chainlink outdoor cages where they were likely to be rained upon". In fact, they have sloping roofs and cool concrete floors, perfect for the climate. If they had solid walls rather than airy wire mesh, they'd be Parisian sweatboxes and everyone would be dead. By contrast, if those thousands of French pensioners had been captured by the Marines and detained by Rummy in Cuba, they'd be alive today.

Mme Pernot writes from St Julien, France. That's right: she's surrounded by an actual humanitarian scandal on all sides but she'd rather obsess about an entirely fictional one. Heat getting to you, Madame? Or just the unusual odour from the flat next door?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: chirac; france; iraq; marksteyn; marksteynlist; steyn; steynisagenius
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To: sarasmom
Careful, he may stick his tongue out at you.

Or even worse, he may start flinging feces at you from his cage.

Make sure your immunizations are up to date.

81 posted on 08/22/2003 9:48:58 PM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn is peerless. Absolutely brilliant. Why doesn't he appear on the Times editorial page? He could single-handedly redeem it.
82 posted on 08/22/2003 10:02:43 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Bob J
We think alike. They do have Vichy in them. Kill the old, they are no use to the Chirac worm machine.
83 posted on 08/22/2003 10:05:57 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Pokey78
Hey liberals, read up:

That would make George's brutal Iraqi summer about one five-thousandth as lethal as the brutal Gallic summer, which has killed more people than the brutal Afghan winter (now 23 months behind schedule), the brutal Iraqi summer and the searing heat of the Guantanamo torture camps combined and multiplied by a thousand.

84 posted on 08/22/2003 10:12:10 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Imal
LOL!
Hard to "fear" people who have no actual blood or intentions of actually ever shedding some,
on their theroetically pure, informed hands.
Much less fear their pure, and humanity loving "minds", when they weigh in on international politics.
It is a good thing ,sometimes, to hear from them.
It serves to remind us that the "populist" vote is hampered by rules, for a very good reason.
85 posted on 08/22/2003 10:14:17 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France, Ignore Germany, Forgive Russia. Canada-well they ARE mostly French)
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To: Pokey78
"Some, he said, informed of the death of relatives, postponed funerals, not to interrupt the August 15 holiday weekend, and left the bodies in the refrigerated hall."

Good God! What kind of people are these?

86 posted on 08/22/2003 10:20:24 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Angel
...couldn't you sit in a tub of water or something?

But the French have such a fear of baths....

87 posted on 08/22/2003 10:27:38 PM PDT by lorrainer (Oh, was I ranting? Sorry....)
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To: McGavin999
Good God! What kind of people are these?

That is a question France's neighbors have been asking for centuries.

The answer remains elusive, but is probably not flattering.

88 posted on 08/22/2003 10:50:36 PM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: Pokey78
Wonderful!
89 posted on 08/23/2003 12:18:31 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Pokey78
bttt
90 posted on 08/23/2003 12:47:56 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Pokey78
Scathing!
Steyn wields la plume à l’épée.
91 posted on 08/23/2003 12:59:05 AM PDT by Meem the Scream (Ever the editor)
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To: BunnySlippers
I am having a hard time believing that 10,000 people have died from the heat. Some one explain that to me, please.

I just got back from southern France (relgious visit to Lourdes) There are very few air conditioners in the France and the entire population in on vacation in August (including apparantly the complete hospital system). No one cares for Grandma in her airless oven/apartment.

By a new law, no one works more than 35 hours a week, more than 44 weeks per year. The hospitals (like every this else in France) are essentially de facto closed.

93 posted on 08/23/2003 2:45:39 AM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: friendly
And our fifth-column media will not utter a word of this information. Sounds like every August could be a culling season, if everyone leaves home except the elderly. I wonder what the official life span is for France?
94 posted on 08/23/2003 4:24:53 AM PDT by maica (Land of the Free, because of the Brave.)
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To: Miss Marple
Perhaps we should start lecturing them on the proper care of the elderly during heat waves.

Here in lovely Michigan (where it is currently 57 degrees and I have use my air conditioner exactly twice this summer) every time it gets into the upper 80's the local stations advise us to go check on our loved ones. There are several charities that will provide you with fans and small a/c units if you are in need.

Perhaps france would care to send a team of experts over to study how we do it?

95 posted on 08/23/2003 4:46:37 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Under advice from my lawyer I will now be known as Mostly Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: maica
Life span isn't too shabby in France.

Life expectancy at birth: total population: 78.9 years male: 75.01 years female: 83.01 years (2001 est.)

The longest lived people on earth by far are in Andorra, a tiny country in the mountains to the south of France which I just visited:

Life expectancy at birth: total population: 83.47 years male: 80.57 years female: 86.57 years (2001 est.)

96 posted on 08/23/2003 5:06:51 AM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: All
Officials said 85 per cent of all public and private retirement homes in France were permanently understaffed. At holiday times, staffing levels fall even further.
Hospitals were short 50,000 staff a couple of months ago before this heatwave as this was in the news. Many of the victims are believed to have died in old people's homes operating with fewer staff during the August holidays. Many hospitals had closed complete wards for the month and were unable to offer sophisticated, or sometimes even basic, treatment to victims. In a bid to reduce the country’s astonishing spending on medication.In mid-July, Jean-François Mattei announced that 84 drugs would no longer be subsidised by the state. Though the move provoked predictable outrage in the country’s thriving pharmaceutical industry.Last year, the health service overspent its budget by almost E6bn.the drive to cut costs in the French health service, which consumes 9.5% of total French GDP, is certain to continue and just as certain to spark more protests and strikes. The government was especially anxious to limit the numbers of medicines prescribed to those over 70, who take more than 25% of all medicines prescribed in France.Hmmmmm.












97 posted on 08/23/2003 5:35:18 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian
The government was especially anxious to limit the numbers of medicines prescribed to those over 70, who take more than 25% of all medicines prescribed in France.

Looks like the bureaucrats' plan worked like a charm: the use of meds will drop in that age group as planned.

98 posted on 08/23/2003 5:54:48 AM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: Angel
The only thing I can figure is that no matter how they died it is being counted as due to the heat.
99 posted on 08/23/2003 5:59:37 AM PDT by boxerblues (God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
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To: Billthedrill
Over 300 elderly died of heat related causes in the city of Chicago a few years ago. This is not hard to believe at all. The combination of age+ illness+ medication ( many make it tough for your body to adjust to heat stress)+ lack of AC+ lack of acclimitization equals lots of dead seniors.
100 posted on 08/23/2003 6:28:02 AM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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