FOX NEWS: ALABAMA TEN COMMANDMENTS JUDGE SUSPENDED...

Drudge Report ^ | 08/22/03 | Matt Drudge

[Pokey78]

Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.

[colorado tanker]

I agree there are cases where civil disobedience is justified. The problem I have here is that we are dealing with the Chief Justice of a state. What is he going to tell his trial court judges when people start disobeying their orders citing their own Chief's behavior? If he has reached the point where he can no longer in good faith obey the law and fulfill his oath of office then he can no longer in good faith fulfill his office and should resign.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

This is outragous! As a nation of Christians, why can't we worship our God as se see fit? It's time to take our country back from the heathans and non-Chrisitans. They can live here I guess (deportation isn't exactly PC) but they should shut the h*ll up and leave us alone!!!

This is NOT a nation of Christians. This is a nation of people of all religions. You can worship your God, no one is saying that you can't. So you say it's time to take the country back from non-Christians. Exactly who would you mean by that?

Earth to Redneck, you don't own this country. People are free here.

[Elsie]

Re #42, Nonsense. Pryor is a man of integrity, with RESPECT FOR THE RULE OF LAW! Any judge who would be intimidated to get confirmed ought to resign, right now! "Rule of Law" is NOT blind obedience or blind enforcement of a law!

Two words........

Jury Nullification

[sinkspur]

fools rush in where wise men fear to tread !

Nat King Cole, right?

[gsrinok]

Earth to Redneck, you don't own this country. People are free here.

Yes they are, and they are free to support Judge Moore and to hope and pray that God will put this country on a Christian path.

[XHogPilot]

Sorry about the Nuremberg reference, I couldn't find a link to another infamous "rule follower", Lt. William Caley(sp), and the masacre he led at MeLai.

Not all laws are just, not all laws are legitimate. In fact, the attempt to enforce illegitimate laws may result in overthrow of governments or war between nations. Note, I am not advocating either in this situation!

[Dog Gone]

If he has reached the point where he can no longer in good faith obey the law and fulfill his oath of office then he can no longer in good faith fulfill his office and should resign.

You would think that would be obvious to all, including Judge Moore.

[deport]

http://www.nbc13.com/news/2428334/detail.html

Moore Suspended For Ten Days

Judge's Refusal To Move Ten Commandments Monument Led To Ethics Complaint

POSTED: 5:43 p.m. CDT August 22, 2003

UPDATED: 5:54 p.m. CDT August 22, 2003

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- Chief Justice Roy Moore has been suspended for ten days pending outcome of an ethics complaint for defying a federal court order to move Ten Commandments monument.

When Moore opposed moving the Ten Commandments monument earlier this week despite a court order, plaintiffs in the case immediately filed a complaint with the Judicial Inquiry commission.

A complaint was filed at 5:01 p.m. with the court of civil appeals in Montgomery, automatically triggering the suspension. Moore will be paid while on suspension.

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	Alabama's Chief Justice Roy Moore has been suspended pending the outcome of an ethics complaint over his refusal to obey court orders to remove a Ten Commandments display from a public building. (ABCNEWS.com)	Suspended Alabama’s Chief Justice Suspended Over Ten Commandments Display From Wire Reports Aug. 22 — Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore was suspended today pending the outcome of an ethics complaint for his defiance of a federal court order to move a Ten Commandments monument from the state judicial building in Montgomery.

Moore was automatically suspended with pay this afternoon when the nine-member Alabama Judicial Inquiry Commission referred the ethics complaint against Moore to the Court of the Judiciary. The Court of the Judiciary holds trial-like proceedings and can discipline and remove judges.

Moore has 30 days to respond to the suspension order.

On Thursday, his fellow state Supreme Court justices overruled Moore and directed that his Ten Commandments monument be removed from its public site in the Alabama Judicial Building.

The senior associate justice, Gorman Houston, said the eight associate justices instructed the building's manager to "take all steps necessary to comply … as soon as practicable."

Moore, however, remained defiant, telling a news conference Thursday he would continue his fight for what he called the "constitutional right to acknowledge God."

He said he would appeal again to the U.S. Supreme Court, which had previously ruled that the monument should be removed. Some of his supporters have vowed to fight any plan to remove the monument through civil disobedience.

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[ChemistCat]

4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any like- ness of what is in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the water under the earth. This monument is fast becoming an idol.

BINGO.

There IS NO COMMANDMENT to DISPLAY the 10 Commandments any particular place!

I strongly sympathize with Judge Moore and his situation is akin to the employees who were not permitted to display flags on their desks as we geared up to retaliate for 9/11.

Nonetheless, this piece of rock carved with words is NOT God, nor is it Christianity, nor is it decency, nor is it even a particularly good SYMBOL for any of these things.

Incitement to riot is not riot. But making this stand is still incitement to riot. I am not sure that dying on this particular hill is good for the kingdom of God. I appreciate his courage. I think that if you don't believe in the God who handed down these commandments, it ought to be easy to regard them as historical documents with only a couple of them objectionable to the most worldly set of values that belong in court. (Thou Shalt Not Kill should be fine with everyone. Thou shalt keep the Sabbath holy, should be meaningless to an atheist; Thou shalt have no other gods before Me, ought to be quaint at worst, and no threat to someone who does not BELIEVE in the God making the pronouncement.)

The hugest problem is that atheists feel the need to make these stands, to try to take away our free speech rights. That they cannot see the stone as part of their legacy as part of Western Civilization shows a lack of historical perspective. But we must not fight them as if they really threaten our beliefs. We must not take them that seriously. Are our beliefs that fragile? Do we fear that by denying our God, they destroy our God? I don't think we should.

If that stone comes down, nothing is really destroyed. The day is coming when every knee shall bend...but men can't make that happen.

Do you think for one moment that if we are patient and loving instead of angry and combative with those who are not Christians, over carved pieces of rock, God will refuse to bring about the Millenium on that account? "Oh well, you didn't fight for this rock, so you must not really believe in Me!"

I know a god like that. His name is Allah and an awful lot of people think they have to fight for his rock.

[John Twenty 28]

Sorry, disobeying a court order is contempt of court.

So it is. But what person in their right mind doesn't have comtempt for a court that invents a constitutional right to kill unborn babies? What person in their right mind doesn't have contempt for a court that invents a constitutional right to engage in sodomy? What person in their right mind doesn't have contempt for a court that interprets "Congress shall make no law..." to mean "A state court shall have no monument..." ?

Contempt for the contemptible!

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

You've already been banned once.

Now you are lying.

[JohnnyZ]

Obviously not all Catholics are anti-pluralist secularists.

There are a couple CINOs on the board who are anti-Pope, anti-Church, pro-lesbian priestesses; to their credit they attack conservative Catholics, Protestants, and evangelicals with similar relish.

[Lurking Libertarian]

We should demand at the very least, a cut in the wages of all Federal judges. I bet they can spare it. It's high time they had a whack on the nose.

U.S. Constitution, Article III, section 1: "The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall ...receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."

[wardaddy]

I agree.

And lest anyone forget. Yes, I am culturally a Southern Prod (Baptist) but hardly pious. My dear wife, bless her heart is making a go at a PCA (the good ones) congregation. It's not the promotion of religion per se that has pulled me into this argument but rather an instinctual knowledge of right and wrong and a resistance to the corruption of our Constitution by those who wish to subvert it on just about every angle imaginable including the "wall of separation" invention.

My views on abortion(militantly anti), firearms rights, Israel (100% pro) and all the others on the "market list" which Moore's opponents have in their sights ....have nothing to do with my own particular religious doctrine. I simply choose to recognize right and wrong where I see fit. I have quoted no scripture here....not that I could even if I wanted.

[Helix]

Even though my child goes to private school, I'm still forced to pay taxes toward the "public" schools and they teach moral principles which offend me.

[tejas]

I'm not quite sure I understand your take on this. Show me, if you will, a seperation clause in the constitution, please.

[First Amendment]

Wheter or not we agree with a ruling, if we refuse to abide by it, aren't we advocating anarchy? I thought we had to abide by all the laws, not simply the ones that we agree with. There are legal challenges that may be undertaken to overturn a lae or decision if they are truly unjust, that's what makes this country so great. Just a thought.

Remember the Boston Tea Party?

[ChemistCat]

Now, the murder of unborn children for the sake of "convenience" IS a hill worth dying on.