Busload Arrested and Led Away from Ten Commandments

WTVM ^ | 08-20-03

[Selmo]

Supporters of Chief Justice Roy Moore have been handcuffed and led away from the Ten Commandments monument in Montgomery. They had refused to leave the monument after Moore lost a last-ditch appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court this afternoon. The federal judge who ordered the monument's removal is now expected to consider a contempt of court finding on Friday. That could set the stage for the monument to be removed ... or fines imposed on the state.

Scores of Moore supporters sang and prayed outside the building as about 20 inside were removed from the rotunda. It wasn't immediately known if they would be charged by Montgomery police.

Associate Justice Douglas Johnston issued a statement saying he had proposed moving the monument to a private area of the judicial building after six o'clock this evening. He said that would avert any fines while Moore pursues appeals that could take months. But he said fewer than five of the justices concurred, and his proposal was not approved.

The associate justices have indicated they may take action later.

Stay tuned to News Leader 9 for complete Skyteam 9 live coverage.

[daughterofTGSL]

Since you don't like hypotheticals, I've found a real law.

In Ohio, if you ignore an orator on Decoration day to such an extent as to publicly play croquet or pitch horseshoes within one mile of the speaker's stand, you can be fined $25.00.

Would you applaud the fining of a father playing horseshoes with his son 5,279 feet away from the speaker's stand? After all, this has happened, and it is upholding the law.

[Chummy]

Hold onto your hats: them rightwing, Constitution-loving, God-fearing conservatives are out there trying to keep that building open after its posted hours.

Anarchy, I tellya, anarchy.

[concerned about politics]

Yes, and that is why I really don't believe it will be turned around.

Yep. Man kind will follow the new religion of political correctness until it almost destroys itself. Only then will they cry out, and they'll be saved from themselves. Man has to learn the hard way. They feel wiser than God. They put themselves upon the throne of the congragation, saying "I Am...."
I don't think most people have ever actually read the 10 Commandments. If people were to try to obey them, imagine what a peaceful, joyous world this would be.

Mans wisdom is foolishness.

[Imagine]

What you fail to realize s_spur is that without submission to a higher law, law becomes the vote of the majority. An example is the board of education in Provincetown MASS, composed of a majority of homosexuals. Their "law" is the curriculum, and we all know what is taught to the children in that school district.
In America, our government is controlled by the Constitution, or at least in theory. When the Constitution is ignored, as the case since about 1960, the "law" is whatever the majority vote is.
Judge Moore is a real hero and we need more like him.

[Revel]

"Congress shall make no law . . . Doesn't say anything about the Supreme Court prohibiting religion."

sorry your argument does not hold water. The Supreme court can't make laws at all. They can only see to it that those established by the constituion and congress are upheld. The first over riding the second. In this case the the supreme court has no such law from either that supports removing the commandments.

[ADisciple]

Boy-o-boy. Could this be the third prophecy of Fatima??!!!

[Chummy]

Heck, concerned about politics, did you read BattleRoyale's question asking if we really thought people needed to be reminded of the Ten Commandments by displaying them?

Sheeesh!

Watch the news! Walk down the block!

[narses]

Where is the Free Exercise Clause in this? The lack of Federal Jurisdiction? The fact that the STATE Constitution explicitly acknowledges God? Or that the SCOTUS has the self same Decalogue in stone on the very walls of their own court?

Note that the self proclaimed Deacon of Dallas supports the ACLU and the left in this case, just as he supported those bashing Senator Santorum for standing up for life.

[sinkspur]

Would you applaud the fining of a father playing horseshoes with his son 5,279 feet away from the speaker's stand?

This is a "non-enforced" law, just as the laws preventing tying one's horse to a parking meter in downtown Ft. Worth are non-enforced.

Surely you can do better than this.

[Chummy]

When has the Free Exercise clause ever been considered in the last too many years?

Is it the Left's inability to maintain their attention while reading that allows them to gloss over so many important details like this?

[Mulder]

Hold onto your hats: them rightwing, Constitution-loving, God-fearing conservatives are out there trying to keep that building open after its posted hours. Anarchy, I tellya, anarchy.

LOL! If the statists think this is "anarchy", wait till they put up the hardened checkpoints staffed by foreign troops, or announce plans to go to a cashless society.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's no more in the Constitution than the term "State's Rights".

Now, when are you going to get around to proving me wrong and showing the place in the Declaration of Independence, or the Constitution where State's Rights are discussed?

[fella]

From "RISE TO REBELLION" by Jeff Shaara...

"He thought of a sermon he had heard, the preacher calling for God to intervene, to set things right. No, that is not what God does. God has given us the power to act, to change our own lives. He does not judge us on how we think, how pure we keep our toughts. We are judged on what we do. If we believe that we are right, we must fight for that belief. If we loose the fight, we canot be condemned for the failure. But if we do not fight, if we simply endure what we believe to be wrong, no piety, no sermons, no prayers will save us."

I can only support those who have the means to carry this fight from a distance. Is there somewhere where we can send funds to help this cause?

[concerned about politics]

Boy-o-boy. Could this be the third prophecy of Fatima??!!!

Kidding, or not? The third secret is a Pope and the group with him being slaughtered by gun fire from soldiers. Some thought Pope Paul being shot fullfilled that vision, but he was the only one hit, and it wasn't by a group of soldiers riddling them with bullets, either.

[daughterofTGSL]

Actually that law has been enforced, at least once, in the father-son situation I mentioned.

[Chummy]

This is a "non-enforced" law, just as the laws preventing tying one's horse to a parking meter in downtown Ft. Worth are non-enforced.

Woe to you (no pun intended) when someone rises to a position of authority and decides to enforce those "non-enforced" laws with which you appear to be quite comfortable.

[rwfromkansas]

Some interesting quotes by Jefferson on judicial review:

"Nothing in the Constitution has given [the judges] a right to decide for the Executive, more than to the Executive to decide for them. Both magistrates are equally independent in the sphere of action assigned to them." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1804

"The opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not [Marbury v. Madison], not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislative and executive also in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch." Thomas Jefferson

[concerned about politics]

Is it the Left's inability to maintain their attention while reading that allows them to gloss over so many important details like this?

Well, I think it's really the fault of the people hired to read to them. They're illegals who don't know English.

[sinkspur]

Or that the SCOTUS has the self same Decalogue in stone on the very walls of their own court?

It does, along with the Hammurabic code, Solon, Confucius, and Mohammed. All are meant to represent the mosaic of law in human history.

If Judge Roy would figure out a way to incorporate these other contributions, no doubt the courts would leave him alone.

[Chummy]

There's a pretty important discussion going on around you, Luis. Do a search if you'd rather not scroll through the thread, as I've responded to your question already and will not again.