Day Before 10 Commandments D-Day: Ambassadore Keyes on Hannity

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Alan Keyes is calling on everyone within driving distance to rally in Alabama with him-- a candlelight vigil tomorrow at 7:00 PM. Keyes is fired up about this. Mike Savage is fired up about this. Hannity asked Ambassadore Keyes if Judge Roy Moore might land in jail. Keyes replied, "Only if I go to jail with him!"

Judge Roy Moore will be on Hannity tomorrow night. Whoever can't go [I can't go-- wish I could], please pray for these patriots.

[NutCrackerBoy]

few on either side of this issue that understands that this issue is not about religion but about the Constitution

I adamantly decry the ACLU position which is part and parcel of a tragic and deliberate misreading of the Constitution.

I agree with Alan Keyes, and do not criticize the level of understanding on the "other side of this issue" as you put it. That is not to say I agree 100% with every Christian conservative position. For example, I have heard someone on this forum opine that our law by definition comes from G*d's law and I do not agree with that.

[ToKillaMockingbird]

I'm sure you are correct in what you say. Only the distinguished Senior Senator from West Virginia is allowed to make long "statemanlike" speeches slamming the evil Republicans and the evil things they do.

[Catspaw]

Well, he--and the junior senator from New York. I did forget to mention the "Hillary Exception."

But I could see Moore giving long, impassioned Tancredo-like special order speeches from the House floor.

[TigersEye]

Believe me, those who zealously seek to remove the display are all too well aware of it. They want, and need, to make this about religion as they don't have a Constitutional leg to stand on in opposing it.

Thank you very much for saying that. I was thinking of that when I posted but wanted to keep my point focused and simple, that this is about the meaning and intent of the 1st Amendment not who's religion gets the best public exposure. If this distortion is codified the rest of the Constitution will collapse.

[steve-b]

He made a law that says that people who agree with his religion are more equal than others in his court.

He amends the laws of Congress that require him to treat citizens equally in the administration of the law.

He has established the sect that follows whichever precise wording is engraved on his security rock.

Next stupid questions?

[steve-b]

Er, we are discussing the fact the Roy Moore is unfit as a judge. His unfitness as a poet should be the subject of a different thread.

[NutCrackerBoy]

...this is about the meaning and intent of the 1st Amendment not who's religion gets the best public exposure.If this distortion is codified the rest of the Constitution will collapse.

That clarifies your post (#135) for me somewhat. But I am still confused. Do you say that many Christians, much as we may sympathize with them due to the attacks up on them, also misunderstand what the issue is all about?

[NutCrackerBoy]

we are discussing the fact the Roy Moore is unfit as a judge.

I believe the order to remove the monument is absolutely tyrannically wrong and not based properly in law, though I am sad to say it is based in precedent.

I support the protests, but I am not quite prepared to say I support Judge Moore's actions as a judge.

[Catspaw]

Er, we are discussing the fact the Roy Moore is unfit as a judge. His unfitness as a poet should be the subject of a different thread.

steve-b, I've used restraint, but I've been sooo tempted to talk about Moore's poetry--not the content, but the style, or lack thereof. But that can wait for another day.

[Happy2BMe]

BUMP for the survival of the United States of America!

[azhenfud]

Right.

Congress, by the Constitution is expressly prohibited from making laws favoring any "establishment of religion" and from making any "prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

And IMO, since "Congress shall make no law", courts have no constitutional authority to rule thereon....

[steve-b]

If the courtroom were his private property, he could put up a Ten Commandments monument, a copy of Michaelangelo's statue of Moses, or a giant Dobbshead for all I care.

However, it isn't his private property. It is a court of justice administered by the State of Alabama, in which all citizens are to be treated equally in fact and in all reasonable perception. A Buddhist finding himself in Roy Moore's court would have good reason to suspect bias -- just imagine a FReeper who found himself being judged in a courtroom festooned with "HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT" posters.

That said, the real smoking gun is the rejection of other points of view described in Msg#86.

[Happy2BMe]

Get a life.

[Roscoe]

According to Lord Myron, Judge Moore hid a secret invisible bible in the monument which subliminally harms atheists who walk near it.

[Happy2BMe]

"I support the protests, but I am not quite prepared to say I support Judge Moore's actions as a judge."

Judge Moore isn't asking anybody to support "him."

What he is asking for is for any remnants of patriots living in the United States (anywhere in the United States) to show up, stand up, speak up, and put up their beliefs right in the face of anyone and everyone seeking to nullify the very precepts the United States was founded on (and gets it's strength from) - - The Ten Commandments.

[steve-b]

Sorry. If Moore had accepted the other donated statuary, the Ten Commandments monument would not be an issue -- equality before the law would be preserved. Moore rejects equality before the law and is therefore unfit to hold his office.

[jwalsh07]

Next stupid questions?

The questions were rational.

Your answers were stupid, untruthful and whacky beyond belief.

But I believ in redemption. Please post the relevant statute codifying the state of Alabama coercing citizens to worship or denying them the opportunity to worship as they choose.

Or once again demonstrate just how stupid you are Steve.

Just the facts Ma'am, just the facts.

[jla]

Do you say that many Christians, much as we may sympathize with them due to the attacks up on them, also misunderstand what the issue is all about?

Not at all, because Christains are on the correct side of the issue, Constitutionally as well as ethically.
What folks forget is that this would have not even been an issue in the 18-19 c. And probably not even up to approx the mid 20 C.

Those opposing this display of the Ten Commandments are being deceptive in that they wish folks to believe that the display is out of the norm, when in fact it is anything but that. So they resort to the time-honored-Leftist tactic of smearing Christians as "Bible thumpers", "Holy Rollers", etc. etc.

It's indisputable that this country was founded on a belief in God & His laws, this is what some wish to revise. Too bad for them that many Christians aren't just going to lie down and let them succeed.

If this was sitting outside Independence Hall in 1787 do you think 55 men would have still carried on the business of that day?

[ninenot]

It is a common belief that he is just as calculating as Clinton, and just as cynical.

While I am in general agreement that the 1stA's prohibition ("make NO law...") gives Moore a firm basis for his position...

...his cynicism and arrogance comes through whenever I see him on Hannity/Colmes.

[ninenot]

American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Americans United for Separation of Church and State

Talk about picking your enemies!!!

The only one who's missing is the National Lawyers' Guild...