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1 posted on 08/15/2003 4:38:47 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
Right. The US should endorse religious oppression.
2 posted on 08/15/2003 4:39:44 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: Destro
This was probably the immediate justification of the Palestinian bombings this week, if such things can be justified in any moral system.
3 posted on 08/15/2003 4:40:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Destro
"A religious eruption over this issue could cause anti-American demonstrations in Turkey, leading parliament to oppose assistance to the Americans."

Is Turkey still debating whether the US can use their base as a take-off point for the war against Saddam?

4 posted on 08/15/2003 4:41:05 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: Destro
I'm sure we'll make this a real priority..

Shove it turkey.
5 posted on 08/15/2003 4:41:50 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Destro
Dear Turkish leaders,

Sorry. We can't get involved in religious problems. We only deal with ideological problems.

Cordially yours,
Sens. Schumer, Durbin, and Leahy

6 posted on 08/15/2003 4:46:14 PM PDT by syriacus (Chuck Schumer belongs to a group which excudes women from full membership)
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To: Destro
I think that diplomatic wrangling over which group of people may walk up to the top of a silly rock or not shows that we all still need to grow up.

This may have made sense thousands of years ago, but the ancient site of a temple is a historical curiousity. Or should be.

7 posted on 08/15/2003 4:46:57 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Hmmmmm. Soon the Islamics will declare the World Trade Center site a Muslim holy area and demand that New Yorkers
KEEP OUT!

I don't thiiiiink so.
8 posted on 08/15/2003 4:47:25 PM PDT by tet68
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"We do not need a religious struggle on the Temple Mount when we are facing an internal struggle in Turkey over sending troops to Iraq"

Hey Turks, the Temple Mount ain't in Turkey.
9 posted on 08/15/2003 4:48:30 PM PDT by July 4th
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The Temple Mount - the Haram-esh-Sharif

"Then Solomon began to build the Temple of the Lord in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah. It was on the threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite, the place provided by David, his father." (2 Chronicles 3:1)

"Glory be to Him who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Sanctuary to the farthest Sanctuary, whose precincts We did bless...." (The Koran, Sura Al-Isra’ 17:1)

The Temple Mount (Heb., Har Habayit; Arabic, Haram esh-Sharif, the Noble Sanctuary),is identified in both Jewish and Islamic tradition as the area of Mount Moriah where Abraham offered up his son in sacrifice (Genesis 22:1-18; the Koran, Sura Al-Saffat 37:102-110).

Here King Solomon built the First Temple almost 3,000 years ago. It was destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE, but 70 years later Jews returning from exile built the Second Temple on the same site. King Herod refashioned it into an edifice of great splendor.

In Muslim tradition, the place is also identified as the "furthermost sanctuary" (Arabic, masjid al-aksa) from which the Prophet Mohammed, accompanied by the Angel Gabriel, made the Night Journey to the Throne of God (The Koran, Sura Al-Isra’ 17:1).

Following the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in the year 70, the area of the Temple was deliberately left in ruins (first by the Romans, then by the Byzantines). This desecration was not redressed until the Muslim conquest of the city by the Caliph Omar ibn al-Khattab in 638. He ordered the clearing of the site and the building of a "house of prayer".

Some 50 years later, the Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik built the Dome of the Rock to enshrine the outcrop of bedrock believed to be the "place of the sacrifice" on Mount Moriah. He (or his son, the Caliph al-Walid I) also built the large mosque at the southern end of the Haram, which came to be called al-Aksa after the Koranic name attributed to the entire area.

The Dome of the Rock (Arabic, Qubbat al-Sakhra) is one of the architectural glories of the world, and the only early Islamic sanctuary to have survived intact. The design of the building is basically Byzantine - double octagonal ambulatories encircling the Holy Rock. A shrine and not a mosque, it is the third holiest place in Islam after the Ka’aba in Mecca and the Prophet’s Mosque in Medina.

The Dome of the Rock is an architectural expression of the ascendancy of Islam. The interior glass mosaics in the drum and dome contain representations of Byzantine imperial jewelry, and one of the ornate inscriptions affirms that God is One and not three; and that Jesus was an apostle of God and His Word, and not His son.

The shrine stands on or near the approximate site of the Jewish Temple (though scholars disagree whether it was the Holy of Holies or the Altar that stood on the site of the rock). It has even been suggested that the Temple building stood 80 meters further north, on the site of the small 16th-century Qubbat al-Arwah (Arabic, Dome of the Winds or Spirits) on an east-west axis with the present Golden Gate.

The exterior of the Dome of the Rock has undergone several restorations. The exterior tiles were last restored in 1963; the gold-leafed dome in 1994)

. The al-Aksa Mosque, at the south end of the Temple Mount platform, was last rebuilt in 1035 and has since undergone several restorations - most recently in 1938-42; and again beginning in 1969 to repair extensive damage from a fire deliberately set by a deranged Christian tourist.

The design of the building is that of a basilica with a narrow central nave flanked by six aisles (14 aisles in an earlier 8th-century phase). The decoration of the mihrab (prayer niche) in the south wall was a gift of the Sultan Salah al-Din (Saladin). The beautiful inlaid cedar wood minbar (pulpit), also donated to the mosque by Salah al-Din was destroyed in the 1969 fire.

A stairway in front of the north entrance to the al-Aksa Mosque leads down to a vaulted passageway and the walled-up Hulda Gates, which had been an entrance to the Temple Mount Platform at the time of the Herodian Second Temple.

During the Mamluk and Ottoman periods and until the mid-19th century, non-Muslims were not permitted onto the Haram. The first known exception was made by order of the Ottoman Sultan in 1862, during the visit of the Prince of Wales, the future King Edward VII.

The Temple Mount - the Haram-esh-Sharif

26 posted on 08/15/2003 6:10:29 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Destro
Christian Freepers pray for these people, being persecuted for their beliefs by the muslim world.
30 posted on 08/15/2003 6:52:05 PM PDT by bluelowrider57 (I'm not challenged, I'm defensive.)
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But Palestinian experts oppose this idea, mainly due to pressure from Egypt and Saudi Arabia

saudi arabia - islamic terror, more islamic terror, and even MORE islamic terror,
32 posted on 08/15/2003 6:58:37 PM PDT by tubavil
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I have long been a supporter of the Turks and am a supporter of Pan-Turkic unity as a counter to the Arabs and China.
I had hopes when the Welfare Party came to power that they would try to Modernize Islam. Instead, they seek to Islamicize Turkey. F____ them.
43 posted on 08/15/2003 9:09:48 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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Turkey is not our friend and has proven it during the Iraq war.
Israel owns the Temple Mound and should be able to do what ever they want. 
Why is Turkey asking us anyway, muslims dont like Christians any more than they like jews.
I guess what I'm saying is Turkey can go to He!!

48 posted on 08/15/2003 11:47:42 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Destro
What on earth do we owe Turkey?
50 posted on 08/16/2003 12:23:50 AM PDT by Spirited
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