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To: Ichneumon; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Jim, Please. I have asked this individual not to post to me. I have written why. He has been abusive and I do not wish to be involved in a flame war. He can post whatever he likes, but he does not have the decency to leave me out of it. Is there anything you can write to him to make him understand that it is polite to leave people alone when they request to be left alone?
1,253 posted on 08/19/2003 6:15:10 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC; Ichneumon
Gentlemen -

I have been observing this interchange with some interest, and while I think you both have raised valid points, I can report that, in my experience, requests from one poster to another to stop posting to them are generally expected to be honored by the moderators - whether right or wrong, I make no judgement here, but I have seen this happen before, albeit not in the crevo context, and most probably in the interest of keeping the peace more than anything else. Therefore, Andrew's request is not unprecedented, and will probably also be expected to be honored.

I do not think that Andrew would claim, though, that such a request should or will function to shield him if he should comment upon Ichneumon's posts or his person or so forth, and so I STRONGLY urge both of you to PRIVATELY contact the moderators, and lay out your cases to them directly, such that you may both obtain a fuller understanding of the boundaries of discourse between the two of you from this point forward - for example, whether Ichneumon can reasonably expect to comment in a general way about Andrew's posts without actually addressing him directly, or whether the contents of his posts are to be considered entirely off-limits. I do not know the answer to this, and nobody but the moderators can provide you with one.

Again, I make no comment upon whether this policy of honoring such requests is right or wrong, nor do I have any idea about the exact details of such things - I merely report that this is the way I have observed it to be. Nothing is likely to be resolved in the current fashion, however, so I again repeat my suggestion that you contact the moderators in private in order to obtain a better idea about their expectations in such cases.

thanks,
g_r

1,256 posted on 08/19/2003 6:52:02 AM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: AndrewC
I must say I'm disappointed in you, AndrewC. Ichneumon's posts are perhaps the most content-rich of anyone on the crevo threads. Ich ain't a troll, and ain't a spammer. Furthermore, this is an open forum, and as long as the other poster isn't being abusive, you can't reasonably expect them not to respond to your posts.

This looks very much like an attempt to silence Ich, and by pulling in Admin Moderator, to consign another thread to the backroom. I honestly thought more of you than this.

1,266 posted on 08/19/2003 7:35:54 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: AndrewC; Jim Robinson
Is there anything you can write to him to make him understand that it is polite to leave people alone when they request to be left alone?

You have refused the same consideration to me before, and that after you had earlier hit Abuse on me for merely responding to your posts.

1,269 posted on 08/19/2003 7:40:13 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
[AndrewC wrote, concerning Ichneumon(me):] Jim, Please. I have asked this individual not to post to me. I have written why. He has been abusive and I do not wish to be involved in a flame war. He can post whatever he likes, but he does not have the decency to leave me out of it. Is there anything you can write to him to make him understand that it is polite to leave people alone when they request to be left alone?

Mr. Robinson, this matter has already been submitted to the Admin Moderators. Since that's their purpose, and I'm sure you've got better things to do than personally be involved in a personal feud by a poster, I respectfully suggest that we simply let the moderators resolve it. I regret that the other party could not remain calm enough to await that result and had to bother you with it.

If however for some unfathomable reason you decide to waste your time on it, my posts recapping the matter and presenting my views on it can be found here (which is already in the hands of the moderators) and here.

Or maybe the quickest solution, if the FR administrators don't want to spend time sorting out who/what/why, and I can't imagine why they would, is to use the Solomon approach and just cut us both in half. Since AndrewC has tried to silence me (and others in the past), several times now, perhaps it's best to give him his wish -- but it's only fair if it works equally both ways, and we are both suspended for a time. It may even give him some new perspective on the nature of his demands, and perhaps he won't be so keen to suppress others when we both return.

Or I will accept any other equitable solution the administrators may decide is most appropriate.

1,508 posted on 08/19/2003 6:14:16 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: AndrewC
hehehe...you have one more poster request to make...good luck with THAT one...hehehe
1,555 posted on 08/19/2003 9:29:21 PM PDT by NewLand (The truth can't be ignored...)
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