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To: discostu
Also notice there are specific exemptions, if I check "yes you may contact me to inform me about new products" on any registration form that company is allowed to cold call me even if I'm on the list.

Oh, and you're SO knowledgeable about sales. (/sarcasm off) What you described above is NOT a "cold call". A "cold call" is a salesperson calling you without you contacting the company first or expressing an interest in the company's product/service first.

It's the difference between sales and marketing, there's overlap but they do have very distinct differences.

Oh, you're reaching. Telephone salespeople employ telemarketing, too. You don't make a final sale via telephone until you've talked to the person first.

You can deny over and over that they are stealing service it won't change the simple fact that they are.

Your service is a telephone number that anyone can call. Period. End of story. If they haven't tapped into your number and directed all your calls to their company, then they haven't "stolen" your service. You're reaching again.

Hundreds, THOUSANDS of travel agencies exist that don't cold call people. Why is it your company couldn't exists without it?

There are many different sectors within the travel industry. I worked in the travel industry for the better part of 14 years in several different sectors. Without going into detail, I will only say that our competitors ALL employed telephone sales, too, in the last sector where I worked. It was the most EFFECTIVE way to reach potential customers nationwide.

276 posted on 08/13/2003 3:44:09 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Yep, but your acting like all business phonecalls will disappear, that's simply not the case. Only cold calls are effected and only cold calls to people on the list.

Not all telesales people do telemarketing, not by a long shot. Only the cold callers do. A rather large chunk of telephone sales aren't cold call, those are the companies with integrity.

You can keep saying it over and over but you're still wrong. According to the laws, which have been tested in court, unwanted telephone solicitation is theft of your telephone service. Whine, bitch and complain all you want, the definition STANDS and you are WRONG.

Ah and now you mix terms again. Sure travel agencies use telephone sales, but not all telephone sales are cold calls. Why couldn't yours survive without cold calls? I'm guess their deals sucked and they're primary source of clients were people who hadn't done any research to find out there were better deals.
279 posted on 08/13/2003 4:06:46 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Your service is a telephone number that anyone can call.

Your house is equipped with a door that anyone can enter. People who disguise themselves as Aunt Ida so that you'll admit them after looking through the peephole (equivalent to Caller ID spoofing) can come in. People with lockpicks (equivalent to TeleZapper spoofing) can come in.

Don't come whining to the goobermint and demanding statist laws against burglary.

294 posted on 08/14/2003 8:40:17 AM PDT by steve-b
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